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To ask what you did with your explosive child?

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Heygirlheyboy · 11/03/2020 21:08

Currently reading the book, just starting but would really appreciate other people's what works for their similar DC. I have one extremely cooperative easy DC so it's not a general parenting thing tho I do wonder if there's an element of learned behaviour in it as destructive, behaviour often gets a reaction. He has been given a lot of empathy and understanding as well as tougher love. Consequences and punishment mean absolutely nothing in terms of changing or improving the behaviour and simply breed more resentment in the short term in an already difficult situation. In school he is overall very very well behaved but the teacher can see the restrainrr steam coming out of his ears at times over perceived slights ie he can't stand being corrected and seems unable to see his own role ie his behaviour led to it. I am drained tonight after a partiiclarly horribel episode out of nowhere that blew up in seconds. For.now I have decided to attempt to remove the oxygen by not discussing afterwards and just gave a curt good night..He is 7 gets a lot of one on one with.both parents and I would say I have a incredibly close relautonship with him but I am fed up at what seems like incredibly disrespectful behaviour. Anyone with similar I would love your dos and donts for what works and doesnt.
Posted in chat but no response and would really love an ear.

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LuckyLickitung · 11/03/2020 22:57

At 7, I took my explosive child to the GP, and by his 9th birthday he had diagnoses of dyslexia, dyspraxia and ASD. We get phases of moods, and there is a termly cycle. He's under the weather at the moment and had a humdinger of a blowout this evening. His normally sunny and placid sibling hasn't been vastly better either and neither has protested about an unusually early night!

Access to tech gives me greatest leverage. The default is a morning and evening tech allowence. Morning has to be earned by surviving the potential flashpoint of getting dressed, including critically, the dreaded socks. Tech is reduced for poor behaviour and increases can be awarded for helpful chores.

General grumpiness tends to result in chill out time in his room. It's phrased as his safe space/ quiet time rather than time out. I will talk to him when he's ready (there's no point before that!) Sometimes he'll just want my quiet presence if he's just tired and grouchy.

He needs quiet time after a day of battling, coping and masking through school. He struggles with any extension to the school day, but can handle out of school clubs after a buffer of quiet, food and drink. Hunger is a big trigger too. He needs warnings about transitions.

7 is an age when flashpoints often show up. With DS1, the extra jump of work and booster sessions building to SATS showed that up! DS2 seems to be feeling tiredness more than last year too even though his routines haven't changed.

ASilhouetteAndNothingMore · 11/03/2020 22:50

My 10 yo tends to explode at bedtime, it's definitely worse when he is tired. I stick to routine as much as possible, we have 30 minute warning of bedtime, ten 10 minute, then three chapters of his book read together and lights out. Usually if he creates a fuss it's at bedtime. I just calmly tell him he can carry on and lose his story, or stop performing and have the story.
Then I leave the room. He mostly gets ready for bed then apologises and asks for his story. Which he gets.
I tried threats, punishments etc, but it became a battle of wills.
It's not perfect, but it's the best way I've found.

Heygirlheyboy · 11/03/2020 22:43

That's terrible, I'm glad you got to the root of it. He has friends but no one really close, he did when younger but we moved before primary :( No Sen and in top 5 percent eng and maths)

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AndNoneForGretchenWieners · 11/03/2020 22:41

My DS was explosive as a primary school aged child, wouldn't bother if he was punished or incentivised either. We eventually found out that he was being bullied at school and he didn't want to lose face by talking about it at home. We ended up having to move him to a different school in the Autumn term of year 6 and it was like he became a different child overnight, he was much happier and calmer, and didn't get into any bother in his new school either.

Heygirlheyboy · 11/03/2020 22:41

I will nanbread thank you.

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Heygirlheyboy · 11/03/2020 22:40

Thank you, yes I do that, try to predict disappointment or frustration... I don't want to shelter hin from these ups and downs. Upset and tears I could deal with but aggression and verbal abuse out of nowhere hard to take. He's over it after a while and I'm still seething and sad.

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nanbread · 11/03/2020 22:39

I would read the whole book and do what they suggest, I like Ross Greene a lot. I've also started some of the Hand in Hand Parenting techniques and they seem to be helping.

Nettleskeins · 11/03/2020 22:37

My ds was very dyslexic and had illegible writing. I was determined to avoid homework pressure, and refused to stress about it and he tended to quite enjoy homework as a result of me letting him dictate or muddle through. He is doing A levels now self motivated. There was a time when he would have screaming tantrums v.impatient etc 7-11. Asd.strategies helped us once he has diagnosis but tbh those strategies can help NT kids too. As you say consequences dont work with meltdowns and escalate. Distraction or better still prevention and planning work best. So screaming rage at cancelled trip can be forwarned by reminding child in.advance that trip could be cancelled because of illness or transport eg. You build in the possibility of having to adapt, to conquer black and white thinking.

Heygirlheyboy · 11/03/2020 22:36

Thanks for joining serendipity.

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Serendipitystardust · 11/03/2020 22:36

Unfortunately no advice but in exactly the same boat with my 7 year old DS so am watching with interest. Keep hoping he'll grow out of it but it's been ongoing since he was about 2 so I'm not holding my breath!

Heygirlheyboy · 11/03/2020 22:35

I remember his preschool teacher, who wasn't very in tune with him gave him a sticker if no mention of poo all morning (there was a lot of toilet humour in the group at the time!) He gained a sticker abd two seconds later saud poo poo poo... she took the sticker off him.

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Heygirlheyboy · 11/03/2020 22:33

No because he'd see a non star as a punishment iyswim and he'd always want rewards for things. Cm tried rewards and it became a negative, there is a lot of research that backs this up. Teacher does group reward and again it's a big negative for him, whether he's on the winning team or not, he hates the measurement of it.

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Daftodil · 11/03/2020 22:30

My DC isn't particularly explosive (he's only 2yo), but didn't want to read and run. It sounds tough and very exhausting. Any SN assessment?

Consequences and punishment mean absolutely nothing in terms of changing or improving the behaviour

Have you tried rewarding good behaviour rather than punishing bad behaviour? Some children definitely respond more to the idea of a full star chart than the threat of the naughty chair. If he was working to get 20 stars a week for a trip to the park/swimming pool/football/cinema/bowling or whatever he enjoys, would this be more motivating than being punished throughout the week?

Heygirlheyboy · 11/03/2020 22:30

Thank you. Time out wouldfor be fought and result in prolonging the exploration I think. You're right re can't hear. What did you do to stop explosions before they happened. Relieved to hear it improved. Exhausted and so downhearted.

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Heygirlheyboy · 11/03/2020 22:28

He is very competitive!! Thank you for reply and everything you've said I'm aiming at. We don't get enough time outside, I will need to push this and it's something that's been on my mind. He does not have any diagnosis. I've been doing empathy since day one. Two and three were easier than this though, he wasn't a bother.

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Littlebluebird123 · 11/03/2020 22:27

Are there any triggers?
My one who can be explosive at home is very shy so hardly talks at school. All the drama is saved for me! It doesn't come out like that but over the years I've noticed that as a pattern. So if there has been an issue at school, even just a minor friendship one then it can cause a problem at home.
The outbursts have lessened over the years. Partly the child growing up I think and partly me being more pro active in stopping it getting to that stage.
I have found that in that state the best thing for mine was to have some time out to calm down and then sort out what was going on, including giving any punishment or rectifying the situation. In the explosion stage they can't hear you at all so it's fruitless.

Nettleskeins · 11/03/2020 22:22

Have you.tried reading some old threads from Sen Children? Explosive Child is recommended reading for many of us. Empathy is good , I also.found reducing demands and sometimes words themselves, helpful. Sensory overload is also a possibility. Certain words and phrases also triggered ds, he hated some of my stock.phrases such as "that is inappropriate". 7 is.a tricky age. Fresh air and free play is helpful. Daydreaming activities rather than tasks or goals (frustrating) team games were terribly triggering Avoid till older

Heygirlheyboy · 11/03/2020 22:03

Anyone?

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