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A school one.

85 replies

Inthepurplerain · 09/03/2020 16:04

I have a son in reception, at what point do you turn your niggles into a complaint?

For example- freezing cold winds today and I hear from my son that he’s been playing outside- with water. When I took off his coat when we got home from school it was absolutely soaking wet. He has been full of cold and poorly a lot since the end of October, with all the viruses spreading recently (i am not referring to coronavirus here) I can’t help but feel that this should be something that can be avoided?

I guess I just feel a bit let down? I try hard to keep my house warm so I’m disappointed that I’m sending him to school to be stood outside in a soaking wet cold when the wind is so cold.

Would you complain about this or just let it go?

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JRUIN · 09/03/2020 18:16

Just tell him not to play with water.

FamilyOfAliens · 09/03/2020 18:10

Why do people keep referring to “toddlers”?

The child is in reception. He’s not a toddler.

Lllot5 · 09/03/2020 18:08

I’m on your side op. I wouldn’t like to outside in the cold with wet clothes on so don’t t see why toddlers should have to be.
Can you imagine the stink if you sent him in wearing wet clothes.

FeltCarrot · 09/03/2020 18:02

reefedsail 😂😂😂

newbingepisodes · 09/03/2020 17:55

For context my son goes to forest school 3 times a week - all day outside in water, today he was in a stream. Soaked and muddy! But bloody happy and hell!

Inthepurplerain · 09/03/2020 17:44

& yes- thank for you noticing. I am completely run down with this, I did expect it- it’s only grating today because he’s unwell and has come home wet and cold with isn’t ideal since they’d be sending me letters if he wasn’t at school.

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Inthepurplerain · 09/03/2020 17:42

@reefedsail does it feel good to insult a 5 year old?
He can do up his coat, I’m not even sure if it wasn’t done up- it’s purely an assumption.

And of course I’m happy for him to play outside, I just don’t appreciate him getting soaked and having to walk home so when the wind is very cold- I’m not that precious.
He’s not on an organic diet, and he’s allowed to play with plastic- haha.

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EstebanTheMagnificent · 09/03/2020 17:42

Has he previously been in nursery or other childcare?

partofthepeanutgallery · 09/03/2020 17:40

Having worked in Reception, you'd be amazed at how the little darling sneak water out of the bathrooms via cups, buckets, any container they can find, to play with outside when they're not supposed to.

And it's a choice to play with water as well. They don't have to!

Soubriquet · 09/03/2020 17:37

suddenly wondering if this is the same school as ds

We had outdoor water play for ds today too.

He had to wash baby dolls to show the importance of health care

No coat on either but he seemed happy enough in pictures

EmmiJay · 09/03/2020 17:36

This used to drive me insane at nursery. DD used to pick up a cold from someone in a one mile radius sneezing (health issues). In the end I had to get the teachers to keep her out of the water which they understood (poor attendance due to hospital visits etc). Its really hard dealing with the endless colds and such. You can either have a word, layer him up like a lasagne or persevere through it all. On the brightside DD has batted off colds much easier now shes older. Good luck!

reefedsail · 09/03/2020 17:36

Ask the teacher to keep him inside doing worksheets until you've had enough time to teach him how to do up his coat.

Fluffymulletstyle · 09/03/2020 17:35

OP i was going to say YABU and very precious, but reading your updates you sound knackered and sick of the constant illness. Flowers I hope it gets better soon.

I Do think it's reasonable though for kids to be outside in the cold and getting wet. Like others say, they wouldn't do it if they didn't enjoy it. Let them eat mud, sand etc, that's how our immune systems build.

Cobwebsandbrooms · 09/03/2020 17:33

optical on the contrary, there is definitely evidence to suggest that being cold does lower the immune response and make it harder to fight off germs, so the opportunity for infection increases.

Cobwebsandbrooms · 09/03/2020 17:31

There's a middle ground. You don't have to "complain" or "say nothing". This sounds like a one-off activity rather than an everyday one, so that makes a difference too. However if it was a regular activity I might mention something.

ie "I noticed DS got very wet in the playground water activity, and when I took his coat off at home it was soaking and freezing. As he's still trying to shake a virus off, I'm trying to keep him warm and dry outside as much as possible. Are there any plastic tabards available in school for this activity, or could I provide one for him to pop over his coat?"

opticaldelusion · 09/03/2020 17:26

So much medical misinformation. Being cold doesn't 'lower your immune system'. Older people are given support with heating costs so that they don't get hypothermia, not a virus. Viruses are more prevalent in winter partly because we huddle together more and partly because sunlight kills viruses.

ThrowingGoodAfterBad · 09/03/2020 17:23

PFB is precious first born. It's that common we need an abbreviation for it. I of course am a superior being with superior abilities to maintain perspective and did not exhibit such things at all ever.

LolaSmiles · 09/03/2020 17:23

primary aged DC are kept inside at play and lunch times during school if it’s raining outside - so they don’t get cold and wet.
Bang out of order to assume a toddler with a lower immune system should be fine to spend the day cold and wet
The OP's child isn't a toddler with a lower immune system.

They're a primary school child who has picked up lots of bugs at the start of term, just like thousands of other children (and staff) in schools up and down the country.

OP It's worth having a conversation with the teacher if you're concerned, but I wouldn't be complaining yet as you haven't a clue what's happened. It could be that they've all been shoved out in torrential downpour, or it could be that during some freeflow time / playtime your DC had chosen to play with water and they've unzipped their coat.

Inthepurplerain · 09/03/2020 17:21

I don’t even know what PFB is short for? 😅

And yes, cold weather does not make you Ill, or give you a cold, obviously. But rhinoviruses especially do pass more easily in colder environments/ temperatures. So being cold, can indeed- make it more likely to get a virus.

Prevention is key! (Especially when you have one already and need to fight It off)

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ThrowingGoodAfterBad · 09/03/2020 17:18

I'd ask a TA, if available, if they really were playing with water outside as a scheduled activity tbh. I'd think it more likely he was playing in a puddle. Being cold and wet is not a good combination, you can get chills from it. Try to drill into him that he needs his coat zipped up (good luck with that). TAs will usually help with that in reception if they can get round them all.

Inthepurplerain · 09/03/2020 17:18

Life has honestly been miserable since November- every single bit of time off has been spent with zero energy trying to recover from the latest illness, same with the week off they just had.

I know it’ll ease off when the warmer weather hits but it’s been rough.
It’s hard to know if you’re being precious or not, but it’s not something I would be actively encouraging at home.

Which is why I constructed this post- thanks for both sides of opinion.

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BogOffWinter · 09/03/2020 17:14

You’re also not being PFB unless pop’s want to accuse someone with 3 kids from 2-10 of being PFB too. I damn well know what makes my kids sick, and how they’re more likely to get ill if they’ve spent the day cold and wet.

Icecreamdiva · 09/03/2020 17:14

Definitely let this go.

BogOffWinter · 09/03/2020 17:13

I’d complain too OP - primary aged DC are kept inside at play and lunch times during school if it’s raining outside - so they don’t get cold and wet. Bang out of order to assume a toddler with a lower immune system should be fine to spend the day cold and wet.

Oysterbabe · 09/03/2020 17:11

Let it go, you're being a bit PFB.