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to help me understand friend with chronic fatigue

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dairyfairies · 12/02/2020 13:22

not goady, I just have noone to ask. I have a friend with chronic fatigue. She is talking about nothing else. Every single conversation is about her condition and how she is exhausted. My friend had to give up work recently as she feels too exhausted all the time. I don't want to cut her off as she has been a good friend in the past but the constant, nearly non-stop talking about her condition is wearing me out (no pun intended).

Does anybody have any advice as to handle it? I know it must be hard to feel constantly tired but she has also good phases e.g. she went to Thailand and Spain last year on holiday, is going out/partying regularly... she has a pretty full on social life with meeting friends, going for lunches, shopping. I know it's probably still much harder energy wise for her to do these than for someone without chronic fatigue but it's not all shit at all time. or maybe it is.

It's just the constant harping on about it. whether we meet, talk on the phone or messages. I just cannot hear it anymore.

For context: I have a severely disabled child for which I had to give up work. My life is shit and tough on so many levels - I don't even get 'breaks' like my friend does (I am not jealous btw). just saying it to make the point that my life isn't exactly a bed of roses but I just have accepted it and don't go harping on about it every time we meet up.

I don't want to lose the friendship but I feel I have to withdraw as I just don't know how to handy the talking about her condition anymore.

any advice is welcome (and yes, I know chronic fatigue is real, I know she is not well, but this is not what I am asking).

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BonnesVacances · 12/02/2020 13:39

Do you mean Chronic Fatigue Syndrome?

Maybe she thinks you understand because you have a disabled child and know what it's like to experience something that fundamentally changes your life day to day.

But what's worth remembering is that it's not just fatigue. Your friend will feel often like she has the flu too. This is the effect of doing whatever she's managing to do.

It also fluctuates which is soul destroying to live with. It's cruel how some days you can feel vaguely normal and then others like you want to die. Constantly being shown what you're missing out on and what life was like before illness.

It's also worth pointing out that you only see her on good days. Those times you're not with her, you don't know how she's feeling or living.

Echo a PP saying to watch Unrest on Netflix. It's an eye-opener.

dairyfairies · 12/02/2020 13:38

flask she had it for years. it's not a sudden change that needs processing time. I know that being tired all times must be absolutely shit. I get that. it's the non stop talking.

bananas
anything I say about myself gets shot down. It's 'different' because I am not ill. It all doesn't count if that makes sense.

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Pinnacular · 12/02/2020 13:38

If she's only just had to stop work she'll probably be having a bit of an inner crisis over who she is now, especially if she previously defined herself by her role or did a job with social prestige. If that's the case I'd recommend Alain De Bouttain Status Anxiety to her as she enters a new phase of her life.

PurpleDaisies · 12/02/2020 13:36

It might be the only thing she has in her life right now.

PlanDeRaccordement · 12/02/2020 13:36

I have a child with moderate CFS/ME (chronic fatigue) and she has zero energy for social life so she doesn’t have one. If she’s not in school, she is literally bed bound. Her school attendance is around 70% so she tries to keep up using a laptop in bed. Sometimes I have to bring her her food on a tray as just going downstairs to the kitchen leaves her with not enough energy to eat.

If your friend has CFS, it is very much on the very very mild end of the spectrum.

I’m a bit surprised that she has no energy to work, but plenty of energy to socialise. Normally CFS sufferers cut out the social stuff first and preserve their energy for school/work and daily self care.

So I feel YANBU in terms of questioning her priorities. She may have CFS and thus not enough energy to work and have a social life, but honestly, if she can do such a full and active social life that energy could equally be spent doing some part time work or getting accommodations for short shifts, rest breaks, homeworking etc.

dairyfairies · 12/02/2020 13:35

sandwich, I get it from a pov of energy. I just don't know how to deal with the non stop harping on about it. We talk about nothing else anymore. Every communication I start ends up with her conditition (e.g. me commenting on her new much shorter hair cut - this triggers a response that her hell fell out because of her chronic fatigues so she needed a shorter haircut - it's just everything goes back to her chronic fatigue) That is the bit I am trying to handle but cannot do anymore. I hope this makes sense.

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FlaskMaster · 12/02/2020 13:33

She's going on about it because all of a sudden she's had a massive, massive change in her physical abilities and it's a huge shock to get used to. With CFS it's not tired as in normal tired, it's different level. Like describing labour pain as "painful" to people who've never felt worse than a paper cut.
Yanbu to not understand because you can't until you've experienced it yourself. Yabu to think she can shuttup about it though. I'd back off and give her space and time tbh.

123bananas · 12/02/2020 13:33

Have you tried talking to her about how tough things are for you too? Some people are so focused on their own 'woe is me' they truly don't realise that other people struggle too. It might become more equitable if you can both have a moan. If it is that draining to spend time with her I would only do it if you have the energy and try to see other people socially that do not place such an emotional and mental burden if you are coping with so much yourself. I have a disabled husband and child and sometimes just need light and fluffy social time to escape, if she can't do that then maybe minimise contact if you have little reserve left otherwise you will burn out. It is not unkind to set limits in the interest of self preservation.

pinkdelight · 12/02/2020 13:31

There's a great documentary on Netflix called Unrest, which you would find useful and enlightening.

thesandwich · 12/02/2020 13:30

Have a look at the spoon theory- helps me understand friend with cf.

dairyfairies · 12/02/2020 13:28

I think it was an exclusion diagnosis. She has seen the GP and hospital doctors multiple times but tests could not find anything physical. She explained it like that. She has been tired for years.

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Whynosnowyet · 12/02/2020 13:25

Did she self diagnose?

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