To think the use of prostitutes just isn't that big a deal?

I'm sorry if this has been covered but it rarely is in these discussions: Health and Safety.

If this is a job like any other then how on earth is H&S so disregarded. Condoms are completely flawed (and there is high demand for use without) exchange of bodily fluids, repetitive strain, the very real bruising and chafing that comes with frequent sex not to mention the exceptional risk of violence, abuse, pregnancy and murder.

There is no safe way to validate sex as a
job from a HSE perspective. It is far, far too risky.

I worked is a laboratory with category one, mainly inert bacteria. The PPE, checks and balances and training was intense. I also worked in care and there was lots of training, manual handling and rules about being alone with clients.

This is not even touching on mental health issues. I now work in the public sector and we are regularly checked for stress etc. And I just type on a computer all day, don't fuck multiple strangers.

To be safe as a sex worker you would need extensive training, psychological evaluation, hr support, multiple forums of ppe (full body suit), never being alone with a client and client registering and screening. Put those things in place and then we can go over morality. (And that would still be a no from me).

The only way to get around HSE laws and best practice is to use self employed (to an extent) or illegal workers. And if you care so little about the people you are paying to fuck that you look for ways to get around their physical and mental care, then fuck you- you are wrong.

Women will never be equal while men know prostitution is out there. Using money to bypass another human's well being? Fuck off.

Sex is different to flipping burgers. Of course it fucking is. At least you'll get gloves and a pension as a burger flipper (oh, and no diseased prick shoved up your arse!).

Men who go to prostitutes are scum. No argument about it. They have no way of knowing if the woman has been coerced into it and that industry thrives on the abuse and enslavery of women. As someone upthread points out- if prostitution is so “harmless” or benign then why do no fathers suggest it as a career to their daughters?!

I guess men who use prostitutes (and their apologists) dont want to see themselves as basically being rapists...
cognitive dissonance at its finest.

Or, Storm11111, you assume that e ery woman (I note you're not including men in your assertion) has her price; some merely set it higher than others: ergo we are all prostitutes, whether we acknowledge it or not.

And you presume to tell us you know what we are thinking.

If you genuinely can't see how offensive that is, I can't help you.

I could countenance offering my body up to a repulsive (or any) stranger in order to spare a child (my own or anyone's) from rape, if the situation arose, but not for mere money, however large the amount.

There are those who know the price of everything but the value of nothing.

@Pumperthepumper With no acknowledgement of any request to reflect on the vast swathes of prostitutes having endured sexual abuse as minors

No thought for women and their safety or self esteem .What really winds me up is "The Sex Industry! WTAF is that! Also when prostitution was being debated about making it legal ! Again these people debating have DC at Uni /well educated ,Unlikely to be entering the flesh trade !

IfNot I love those ones. Always a stunning girl, always a high-class, always earning thousands per client, always has a highly-educated background and/or profession but has chosen to be a prostitute, always the ‘friend of a friend’. It’s like this perfect little bullshit script, it writes itself.

@IfNot Yup. It's not even subtle.

are from the very same men

I really get annoyed at shit like this .Ask yourself if your "mate" who had been seeing a prostitute ,would feel if this girl was his daughter doing it with a future punter some time in the future?! Or his Sister who had fallen on hard times ,and didnt want to ask family for help?.Maybe he might change his misogynistic mind then! How would he feel if one of them had been beaten to a pulp, or forced to engage in a violent rough Sex game ? Prostitution is all about fulfilling the mans needs !

It's so clear to me that most (if not all) the stories on here about the "friend" who is the mythical "high class escort happily doing it for easy cash" are the very same men who go to prostitutes.
I bet they also know lots of girls who strip to "pay their way through college"

Thank you for replying to my personal question.
So somewhere along the way life went wrong and you ended up homeless with a tiny baby. I can only imagine how horrendous that was. You got a place to stay for that night through the council. What if you hadn’t known to go to the council? What if they hadn’t had a room? Your ex turned out to be abusive, what if part of that abuse had been to force you into sex with his friends? Can you see how easily you could have been in the position of these girls?
Then imagine you’re 14, in care, abused by a carer or a boyfriend, maybe introduced to drugs. Or an older boy comes along and promises you the world, u jump at the chance. But the world turns out to be prostituting you, and beating you up or imprisoning you if you refuse. The. You’re stuck.
Please don’t think they have a choice, please just be grateful that you, despite being in a desperate place, got that place to stay, and escaped that abusive man.

This is interesting reading: www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/pdfplus/10.1086/695670

Why would you let multiple men empty their balls into you for cash?

I think everyone has empathy with prostitutes and worry about the ones who ended up there due to adverse situations.

Hihothedairyo
Thelnebriati no thanks, I'm not a prostitute, I haven't made that choice for myself. Nice try though

I was trying to get you to have some empathy for prostituted women.

I think “best choice” is more like “only choice” in too many cases, but thank you for not being completely rigid in your thinking, OP.

Winesalot I wasn't offended. I'm trying to understand what I think about it. I think if prostitution was in a 'therapy' situation there would be workers rights and law protected them. But that won't happen.

To be honest, the only men I've known who have visited prostitutes have something 'off' about them, emotionally stunted and start to view all women in the same light.

They're all single now.

So OP, can you see now that for some women, women in the types of situation I’ve just described and others, the “choice” isn’t really a choice at all?

Only read half the thread, can't read read the whole thread it makes me want to vomit. Just wanted to came on to say YABVFU and naive to still not have your mind changed 1/2 way through, you are vile by association IMV.

I'm not selling my body

I agree with you op. If both parties are willing and no ones cheating then I don’t see the problem.

There was a AMA thread with a prostitute who does it because, yes she needsthe money (like we all do) but would rather be a prostitute than a cleaner. Her choice.

Drinkygin
How about how some people use tinder for sex and the many married men..
this maybe "free" providing they don't have to have any dating costs.
I am told many go to a prostitute just to talk to a woman as well as not having sex.