... to be irritated by pet owners going on about fireworks given the impact that people having pets has on society and the environment?

I think you sound very intolerant OP.

My animals are absolutely fine with fireworks but some animals are so terrified they literally lie unable to stand up shaking.
Even if you don't consider yourself an animal lover you surely must see how utterly selfish and cruel it is to put another creature through that just so that you can enjoy a pretty display.

Not to mention the effect on ex soldiers, people who have fled war torn countries, noise sensitive people like autism sufferers, young babies, livestock, horses, the multiple horrific injuries to people and property damage from improper use...

I would like to see them banned entirely myself.

Yabu

It seems weirdly sociopathic to be totally unmoved by causing unnecessary fear to another living thing.

I think that's unfair to the OP. There are lots of things about their post that ate weirdly sociopathic, not just the lack of empathy.

This is so weird, I feel like I've stumbled upon an alternative spiteful planet. Wheat as a parent of a child with Down's Syndrome can you not see that your bigger, bangier fireworks could negatively impact a child or adult with Autism nearby? OP, your objection to pets because they harm wildlife is absurd in light of your argument being that you should be allowed fireworks, how do you think birds/ hedgehogs/ foxes/ feel about them? The same as you? 'Yeah, let's piss off all the dogs and cats in their homes while we have no protection'? If you step in dog shit that's a result of an arsehole owner, not an arsehole dog. My old dog and family cat used to sit outside and watch the fireworks together, my cat now doesn't care but I have an ex racer Greyhound who is so inconsolably distressed during fireworks, 2 young children who are often disturbed by them. Where I grew up there were arseholes who taped them to frogs/ cats/ anything they could find, they were thrown at strangers/ cars. Posted through doors as a 'joke'. I would agree with a ban except for organised displays.

As usual with these threads the more I read posts by some of the cunts who hate dogs, the more I prefer my dogs
Not sure who that’s aimed at.

To clarify, I have two dogs.

I know that to do so is inconsiderate of the environment, and I would never dream that as a dog owner who inconveniences lots of other people I should dictate that they can or can’t have fireworks if they want to

I used to have a sweatshirt that had ‘The more people I meet, the more I love my horse’ on the front. Still true.

Ha - I think I need one of those!

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/bonfire-night-2018-fireworks-display-events-injuries-graphic-pictures-warning-doctors-a8618646.html

I used to have a sweatshirt that had

‘The more people I meet, the more I love my horse’ on the front.

Still true.

It seems weirdly sociopathic to be totally unmoved by causing unnecessary fear to another living thing.

Well said Cohle

As usual with these threads the more I read posts by some of the cunts who hate dogs, the more I prefer my dogs

See if fire works we’re only actually used on the 5th and not from early October (locally ours started September 15th this year) through mid February and launched at 3am in the middle of the street I wouldn’t give a flying fuck.

One night a year it’d be affordable to get medical treatment (sedatives) into anxious dogs, leave loud radios on, wear ear defenders, sleep with ear plugs etc for humans.

If people can’t be responsible or trusted not to buy them for arseholes who launch them at people, through letterboxes, at cars/houses/farm animals and all the other dumb shit they do they should only be available for displays. Maybe even if the council opened permits for displays where you had to have x amount of space, provide the exact time and date and pay a small fee/be willing to pay if you damage your neighbours property then you could legally obtain them at a cost it’d help reduce the number of incidents on the streets.

You’re being weird. People objecting to fireworks because it makes Tiddles cry: not legitimate

People aren’t allowed to complain that fireworks upset their pet? Who made you the thread police? And how does my vegan, retired very quiet horse impact on the environment bar contributing manure? He couldn’t care less about fireworks (nor could my meat eating not allowed to chase wildlife dogs. We sit in the garden to watch the neighbour’s annual display, but I didn’t like the effect they had on my old boy. YABU.

It seems weirdly sociopathic to be totally unmoved by causing unnecessary fear to another living thing.

Fireworks are pretty. Some humans are too stupid to be allowed to be in charge of them. I think selling them to individuals is a bit daft, go to a display.

The actual question though, about the pets bit? Well, it's not like firework season comes as a shock is it? Not like a nation sits there and is like "fuck! Where on Earth are all of these fireworks coming from all of a sudden. It's November!" Pretty obvious it's going to happen, so yeh, lock Rex away or summit and stop moaning about the animals already.

All more antisocial than me owning dogs so fuck off.

Hear hear.

Dogs as pets are not a human invention. Dogs and humans have lived closely together for 30,000 and have co-evolved. The first dogs joined human societies because presumably they got a benefit e.g. access to waste food. Both got companionship.

You might as well say dogs as pets were a dog invention.

Meh I like fireworks and my dog isn’t scared of them. In fact we nearly called him fawkes as he was born on 5th November.

As for your post.,. How many children do you have op?

Pets used to commit arson? Where?

People hate fireworks for the impact they have on people, not just animals. They should be banned especially in urban areas. It's needless and selfish and incredibly unsafe because there's not enough space to set them off at a safe distance from buildings, roads and trees. Never mind the number of households being affected by one household's decision to make a racket. YABVVU.

I am pretty sure more people are injured by dogs each year than fireworks?

Pets. Not let’s

Fireworks are a noisy, environmentally unfriendly hazard to life in the hands of irresponsible thugs and children. They cause injury. They are used antisocially and sometimes used to commit criminal offences like assault / gbh / arson.

Are you taking the piss?

All those things apply to let’s, more so than to fireworks

Me and my kids are subjected to barking dogs all year round.

And plenty of people are subjected to their neighbours’ annoying screaming kids all year round. What’s your point?

Pets serve a purpose and I dont think that because we allegedly "created" them that we think it's ok not to consider them in our actions honestly?

But you're right about considering them in our actions. Cruel to buy a pet, which doesn't have a choice and then not care when they are distressed.

DH, not sure who FH would be!