... to be irritated by pet owners going on about fireworks given the impact that people having pets has on society and the environment?

I hope you never need the services of a dog @Kallyderon.

Dogs aren’t just pets, they work for us in so many different ways; guide dogs, dogs for the deaf/disabled, police dogs, army dogs, guard dogs, hospital visiting dogs, seizure/medical assistance dogs, I’m sure there are more. Yes no one is obliged to own a living creature but many Of us rely on these animals to protect us. The best we can do is return the favour.

I love firework displays but in getting a dog I made the decision that I won’t be attending firework displays now. What I don’t like, is that fireworks can be bought so easily by the public. That they are bought for domestic parties with people who spend all day socialising (drinking) and then think it’s a fantastic idea to light fireworks in fucking dense living environments or pointed at trees. I hate that people set them off for weeks before bonfire night. That people who buy them, store them to use for birthdays in the year. I hate that teenagers buy them and think it’s funny to set them off at each other or other people. The fire service and hospitals aren’t kept busy with people from organised displays, they’re kept busy with the general public.

They’re dangerous and should be treated as such. It should not be ok to have fucking sparklers at wedding when people have been drinking all day - from experience of being at two weddings with sparklers and coming away amazed that the worst that happened was DH ruined his shoes and I got a spark down my cleavage. By having them at organised events only, you can ensure the safety of everyone, ensure all animal owners are prepared and make accommodations for their animals and that service personnel with PTSD have prior warning. It’s ridiculous that you can go in a supermarket and whilst picking up a loaf of bread you can also pick up a box of explosions.

Such a random illogical argument.

So you care more about setting off fireworks for fun than you do about animals that may be scared or harmed by them?

Nice.

I actually think organised dislays can be worse as they are actually longer and louder then most home fireworks. SAver perhaps but not that save if someone has a sparkler in acrowd or the the poeple stand too close to the fire. I have been to a few organised ones with dubiouse safety and think sometimes a home party can be better.

I do find it annoying when dog owners complain about the noise of fireworks when I hear dogs barking every day of the year, but it's a tradition on MN to have these kind of threads at this time of year!

I own a baby who is currently crying as someone is having a display in their garden. The baby is ill, as am I, and we both should be asleep.

Fuck the twats who let fireworks off in their gardens without informing their neighbours. Double fuck the twats who let them off in the street. Death to those who throw them at other people.

HTH

Fireworks should not be on sale for domestic use at all in my opinion.

I’m guessing you realised yet another thread about how outraged you are that a dog looked at your child would be boring so well done on being creative and combining your anti-dog hate with a festive theme.

So your pro fireworks argument is basically, pets are bad for the environment so you don’t care if they’re scared by fireworks?

Well it’s not really a logical point is it...

I wish people didnt have cats and dogs as I find them really antisocial

In what way can a cat or dog be anti-social? Surely that’s a human trait?

Sheesh.

What a tortuous argument.

And how anyone can describe themselves as a ‘non animal lover’ sends a shiver down my spine.

Don't be such a dick.

It's possible for more than one thing to be an issue at a time. The environment is not some fucking trump card to shut up anyone raising an issue you disagree with.

Fireworks are a fucking nightmare for people with PTSD too. It's not whingeing to point that out.

"Totally agree. I'll be buying extra fireworks this year because the amount of people moaning about fireworks on social media really annoys me."

@SunInTheSkyYouKnowHowIFeel so your logic is to buy more fireworks to piss off the people who don’t like them, but think they should be more tolerant of you ~ seems valid 🤦‍♀️

I love fireworks, I think theres something magical about having a bonfire and a few fireworks at home in the garden as well as going to a display.

Not everyone who buys fireworks for home are dicks.

YABU to think it’s ok to let off fireworks at home. Agree with PP they are dangerous in the wrong hands and the general public should not be allowed to buy them.

My cats would be eating, shitting and doing whatever they do whether they were with me or not.

In the meantime, I've just seen yet another news report about a knobhead putting fireworks through a letter box and causing massive damage to the property.

I'm bracing myself for my living room to sound like a warzone in the next couple of weeks, when my neighbours decide to set them off 2 metres away from my house as they do every year.

It's not just about not scaring animals.

Disagree . Fireworks should not be sold to the general public . Have no problem with fireworks being set off on November 5th - problem is they’re usually set off a week either side . My Ddog is terrified of fireworks ( and thunder as it happens ) - cats not bothered .

Totally agree. I'll be buying extra fireworks this year because the amount of people moaning about fireworks on social media really annoys me.

For us non animal lovers we have to put up put up with the irritations of other peoples animals all year round. I wish people didnt have cats and dogs as I find them really antisocial, but I accept that plenty of people love them so accept I need to be a bit tollerant of them. I wish firework haters would show a bit more of a live and let live approach too.

Livestock and wildlife are just as affected by fireworks as domestic pets are.

I have a cat that doesn't care about firework. If it was just 5th November that would be an improvement but it goes on all month. Fireworks are antisocial and dangerous and should be confined to organised displays.

I don’t think general public should be allowed to buy fireworks as they are dangerous and a disturbance when not used correctly

^This

There are also a lot of parents of young children who don't like fireworks because the noise late at night keeps them awake. Also soldiers suffering PTSD who can't stand hearing loud bangs. Do they have a bad impact on society and the environment too? It's not only pet owners who complain.

I agree Ginfordinner.

Don't own a dog but I live near a neighbourhood where the local kids thinks its great fun to aim fireworks at cars driving past.

You obviously don't like dogs but it's a bit of a reach to turn it into an ecological argument though

I don’t think general public should be allowed to buy fireworks as they are dangerous and a disturbance when not used correctly. Not because they scare my cat.