AIBU to give you an update re Church noise?

Surely if the parking is so bad the Council or Police should be looking to have that stopped with no need for meeting with anyone. Also , if the church was there when you moved in not much you can do about the noise from singing. Can't recall the full details of your listing though.

An annual firework display lasting maybe half an hour is very different from very high noise levels every Saturday for hours.

We have laws about noise levels to protect people in residential areas like the OP. if only someone had the balls to follow the process through.

The congregation arrive by bus and car. They don’t walk to church from the next street.

Thank you Someone other that is really interesting. My knowledge of SDA is pretty limited. When I was a child they had a private maternity hospital at Stanborough Park and because of that (and seeing the posters on the bus) I always thought it was a rather conservative white church. Clearly times have changed.

Mn really is turning into ThickyMcThickoNoReadingComprehensionWhatsoeversnet judging by this thread

Lola - that's a helpful summary. Unfortunately, the people who need to read it are the ones who just read the OP, then fire off a comment, so I fear your post might not achieve much - but worth a try, I guess.

Yes LolaSmiles but has the demographic of the area changed too? Because if it has, there will be lots of other noisy churches in the area, so I'd have thought the council may then start to regard it as normal. A much higher proportion of black people than white people go to church, and a high proportion (though not all!) of them go to noisy church.

A TLDR update for people who don't want to catch up properly.
OP moved next to church and expected normal church noise.
OP has no issue with normal church things.
Church lets the space out to another denomination.
The other denomination are excessively loud and disruptive in the street to the point of being unreasonable.

Crucially, can we stop with the "why did you buy a house next to a church..."

19:57Ivestoppedreadingthenews
It's not the only thing you've stopped reading is it. RTFT or keep your trap shut

Ah yes - I see - this article gives some info - news.adventist.org/en/all-news/news/go/2011-12-14/church-chat-where-did-londons-majority-white-church-population-go/

• so are churches with this kind of music, and the demographic to support churches like that, common in your area? Because once again I would have thought that might make a difference to how the council regards it. BTW our church moved into a previously non-church building, and has restrictions from the council about timing of services to avoid noise nuisance (though we don't even have musical instruments, and only a small amount of amplification, just for the preacher). Yet the council can organise an annual firework display with fireworks that are louder than any I've ever heard (sound like bombs and go on for ages)!

I was really surprised when I read in this thread that SDAs were noisy as I thought they were a very old fashioned sect - you'd be surprised how many of their books from the early to mid 20th century are still circulating on the second-hand market. But do I gather from what I'm seeing that maybe most SDA people nowadays have a background in other countries, possibly 1/2/3 generations back but nevertheless fairly recently?

I remember a small modern church in a white area of Bristol in the 1980s, with a health food shop round the corner that was closed on Saturdays so presumably had some connection with the some of the congregation. But I have been living in a part of UK with no SDAs for most of the time since so my impressions are probably completely out of date.

Shamelessly placemarking.

On your side. Hope they start to improve

You should live next to a Meeting House. The Quakers are silent.

@Londonmummy66 's advice is spot on, and very helpful.

Like @BelfastSmile 's Church, our (Methodist) Church was approached by what sounds like a similar church to the SDA's - we said we weren't prepared to rent out to them, as we are in a community, and wouldn't inflict that upon our neighbours.

So sorry your thread has been posted on by so many people without the brains to understand if this is an update, it might be relevant to actually read the thread - particularly as it was linked to and then so many other posters have pointed out what a difference it makes to what they are saying

OP, you have my complete sympathy here, but I'm amazed you are being so passive about this. Four years in and you're still accepting a limp response from the minister and the council. I would have been ringing the council every week and escalating to any higher authority I could find after four weeks of this, let alone four years.

When you say monitor, does this mean they have one of their noise monitors running or are they relying on your diary? If the latter, why are they not recording sound levels now? You have kept a diary for yonks!
It is the minister's issue if his tenants are making unacceptable levels of noise and if can't and won't accept responsibility then you need to go above him in the ministry and invite them on a Saturday so they can experience it first hand, the parking and the shouting. I feel for you op.

*Ivestoppedreadingthenews

I really don't understand why you think you have any grounds for complaining if you move next to a church*

I suggest the answer to is that you lack reading comprehension, and maybe you should work on that instead of picking at someone in trouble.

Totally understand people not wanting to read long threads... but what goes on in the mind of that person to make them add their initial thoughts to a thread they haven't wanted to read? It's very long and CLEARLY contains more info than in the first post. But somehow your own tuppence needs adding before you close the tab and move on?

Obviously nobody is required to read anything they don't want to, but why assume everybody would like to hear your uninformed thoughts - do you presume them to be original? I find it baffling and funny and irritating in equal measure!

(That's not aimed at a specific poster BTW, just the issue in general)

I always imagine people who don't RTFT are people who love the sound of their own voice

Yet another numpty posting

there not their

Wow you poor thing! Just seen the post from NotMe. Hopefully her dh will be able to help.

I really don't understand why you think you have any grounds for complaining if you move next to a church.... It would be like moving next to Wembley and complaining their was noise from football fans

Ok , read a bit more, you do have a sound meter. He said the key thing is the background/baseline as well as the noisy times. Also if it has a dBC setting that picks up more frequencies than dBA, for instance bass speakers. Hope you get a resolution soon.

I’ve now read your OP via the link . Plus this one . I’ve concluded that it’s 10 minutes of my life I won’t get back again .

Hi, I asked my DH about this. (He works with sound systems and a lot of churches). In terms of monitoring noise, he says a basic decibel meter ( with “max hold”)is not expensive and you can log the profile of noise through the week to show the nuisance is way above the everyday level. With evidence they should put a Noise Order on the church which might involve restrictions, require insulation or a noise limiter. PM if you would like more info.