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To tell DH me and the DC are moving and it's his choice whether he comes?

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VizzyWoo · 28/07/2019 13:53

We live in a tiny village of around 15 houses, basically a small estate in the middle of a field surrounded by farms. The village has no services, not even a shop. We've lived here since the DC's (now 15 and 12) were a toddler and newborn. The nearest shop is in another larger village 2.4 miles away, which may not seem like far but it's a lot when you don't drive (I suffer chronic pain that makes it difficult to drive). There are times when DH has been at work and I've had to walk an hour there and back into the larger village to get some milk. So 2 hours for a pint of milk. There is technically a bus that goes to the larger village one way and the nearest town the other way, but it's every other hour (and only turns up 50% of the time so more like every few hours) and stops at 4pm.

The DC's go to school in a town 5.4 miles away and it was a nightmare to get them in, we weren't in the catchment area and they didn't believe that they were the closest school. All of the admissions folk hadn't heard of our village. Eventually we got them in. Naturally both kids wanted independence when starting secondary school. We tried to let them both use the bus service in Year 7 but on the several times they tried the bus never turned up. So DH drives them on the way to work which they hate. Because the bus back to the village stops at 4pm (and never turns up in between them finishing school and 4) they have to wait around outside school until 6 each night for DH to get off work and pick them up.

DD starts college next year and it is 7 miles away. Bus again is completely out of the question. I have no idea how we are going to manage it as it's off DH's work route and DS's school route. We've actually had her in tears because she feels her social life is being damaged living here. If it's Saturday evening and all her friends are meeting up in town, she can never attend as DH CBA taking her. Her friends all go to the gym together and she can't go, DH won't take her. Friends eventually stopped asking her. DS is only 12 but he's starting to want to go out but can't. It's also my social life, I can't go to meet friends for a coffee etc and I am very lonely.

I have wanted to move for years, but DH always says no. His reasoning is that it's quiet and safe here, there is no crime. And that being here keeps the DC out of trouble. He also calls it his "Lovely quiet retirement home" (he's late 50s, is retiring in a few years). DD massively resents him for this. We have had many an argument about it. Personally, I think he is selfish. He has his car and can piss off whenever he likes, and he does. He gets to go into a city for work and is always down the pub in the larger village etc. While me and the DC are literally prisoner at home going out of our minds. He says I'm stupid for wanting to move into the nearby town, and that I'll be giving up our "lovely safe home". I think it's ridiculous. The vast majority of people in the UK live in towns/cities/suburbia nowadays and get on fine!

Me and the kids are becoming very lonely and depressed and he doesn't care or doesn't realize. I'm tempted to join a house swapper site (social housing) without his permission, and if we get someone interested then I will pursue it and he can either come with us or piss off. His choice, but either way me and the DC GO. I think I have a good chance of getting a swap, I'm sure the village is desirable to some. I know me and the kids need to leave this village, it's suffocating us. DD has literally been breaking her heart about it, 15 and going stir crazy. It's awful. I feel like we're being kept on DH's bloody compound.

I love DH but the kids come first. I feel they aren't going to thrive here and are lonely, isolated and depressed. As am I. I feel I need to take control here.

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timeisnotaline · 28/07/2019 16:17

This time the twat can't use that threat as I can respond "In the courts eyes the DC are old enough to decide who they live with, and they are going to choose me because they both resent you for keeping them prisoner here just because it suits you."
Yep, you can make up your own mind and I know what I’d be doing.

73Sunglasslover · 28/07/2019 16:15

I think your DH has a choice to make - if it's his choice to stay there he needs to drive people around, pretty much as often as they want him to. If he's not prepared to do that he needs to move - or at the very least you do. I don't think you are being unreasonable unless you guys are wealthy enough to get cabs all the time in which case you could use that solution.

IHateUncleJamie · 28/07/2019 16:14

@VizzyWoo if he’s so keen to keep the house “for retirement” - which in itself is not unreasonable - then what about renting it out via an agency until such time that it’s practical to live there again? That way he gets to keep the “dream retirement home” but you could all rent a much more practical home on the edge of or in town for now.

He cannot reasonably object to that. If he does, I think it’s time for an ultimatum.

aintnothinbutagstring · 28/07/2019 16:13

We live in a city centre, within a 15 minute walk of the main centre, I would recommend it! As much as I'm an introvert, so don't really like crowds, it's nice to be within walking distance of so many things. Particularly over the DC's childhood, we have been faithful users of the town's leisure centre for swimming lessons and another niche sport my DD does. DDs secondary will be a 15minute walk, what do your DC's do til 6pm waiting to be picked up? I'd not want my DC hanging around til that time. You don't even have to move to an urban area, there's lots of quiet suburban places with good transport links into town. And I'd prefer to retire in a city or town where you've got tons of pubs, restaurants, cinema, social groups going on.

bellabasset · 28/07/2019 16:12

It sounds very difficult, I live in a village with a hourly bus service, but less at weekends. But we're near the main trainline.

The thing is you're not retired, you might want go to work part time so moving would give you independence as well as the dcs. As you get older access to medical care etc becomes more important.

Happynow001 · 28/07/2019 16:11

Good on you, OP, for sorting out DD's lift to the party.

I really am reaching the end of my tether. I still love him somewhat but he has become such a twat.
Are you sure you do love him even "somewhat" or is this just habit?

Do, please, speak to Shelter and/or your council before making any permanent move as there is the strong possibility your council will declare you've made yourself intentionally homeless. Take advice before you leave him (and you do need to as I very much doubt this is his only area of utter selfishness).

ClownTent · 28/07/2019 16:11

My mum didn't drive and my dad worked all the hours god sent, but he still managed to take me and my brother here, there and everywhere without moaning about it, because they made the decision to send us to a school two towns away, so all our friends were there. He also took me to two different stables at 7 and 7.30am on Saturday and Sunday and picked me up, and took my brother to football on a Sunday too.

I have been the only driver in a relationship (before DS) and it is a bit of a pain, but having children changes things and you either drive them about because they can't or you move!

VizzyWoo · 28/07/2019 16:10

@lyralalala

DD has no respect for him anymore. DS going the same way. DD has actually begged me to leave him before because "He cares about the house more than us." How bad must a sitation be for kids to want their parents to split? Sad

It is so tense in the house, because there is no escape for us 3 when we need a bit of space away from each other etc.

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AcrossthePond55 · 28/07/2019 16:10

Another thing to think about with 'country life', is that it's highly probable that your DC will grow up and move to a city/larger town. DS1 did as and I'm sure DS2 will as soon as he is financially able to. Luckily for us that means about 35-40 miles away and in "California freeway distance" that's practically in our backyard. But it's a lot further if you're driving 2-lane country roads. We only have to drive about 5 miles of that then it's freeway.

You don't/can't drive. Your DH is a jerk who won't drive anywhere if he doesn't want to. How often do you think you'll be seeing your children and grandchildren?

BuildBuildings · 28/07/2019 16:08

God this is bringing back loads of horrible memories from my teenage years. As pp's have said if you do love with him it will be awful because heel blame you for making him leave his perfect home.

MulticolourMophead · 28/07/2019 16:07

OP, the more you post, the more I see an abusive, controlling dick, not a husband who cares about what you or your DC think or feel. You and your DC will feel better to move away into town.

PerkingFaintly · 28/07/2019 16:07

IAskTooManyQuestions AndIDon'tListenToTheAnswers.Hmm

lyralalala · 28/07/2019 16:05

@VizzyWoo Does he have any good qualities at all?

You really are at a crossroads. If you stay the atmosphere will continue to get worse, your kids more resentful and they will move out at the first chance. If you leave you’ll be leaving him behind

The question really is - who would you rather live with, him or them?

Your DD’s relationship with him already sounds wrecked, her relationship with you will also get more strained as she gets more stressed with the situation. Once she moves out she’s hardly going to be excited about the prospect of visiting regularly with him there.

Knittedfairies · 28/07/2019 16:04

If moving in with your family is still an option, I'd be packing a few bags for the three of us to stay with them for the summer at least.

Quartz2208 · 28/07/2019 16:04

It’s all about control and keeping you were he can have total control over what you do and do not do
He won’t change and as you say custody is not an issue anymore

VizzyWoo · 28/07/2019 16:02

^Hasn't said that but that's how it feels. He goes out and "provides" and we all stay at home. It's like living in the 1800s.

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WhereYouLeftIt · 28/07/2019 16:02

@Beautiful3 the OP has said she has vertigo. I had vertigo temporarily. Every time I turned my head - as you do to check your mirrors - my head spun. Dizzy in charge of a ton of metal travelling at speed? Not a good idea. I currently drive an automatic. It would have made sod all difference to how safe I would have been to drive.

Veryouting123 · 28/07/2019 16:01

This sounds awful! Poor you and DC. He isn't considering any of you is he? Don't bother putting your home on Homeswapper. It's highly likely he'll still say no which will just delay things and cause more upset.

Talk to him. I'm sure you have talked about this plenty but make this the last conversation you have with him on this subject. Tell him it's affecting you all, you can't do it anymore. You'd love for you all to be able to move etc. If it's still a no then your answer isn't that you can't move. Your answer is that he's not joining you. And then you make your steps to a better lifestyle for you and DC. And you never know, once he sees how serious you are he might change his mind - he probably thinks you won't go ahead with it. Prove him wrong OP!

VizzyWoo · 28/07/2019 16:00

It is all about his quiet retirement home. I have practically screamed at him "THE KIDS ARE TEENAGERS, THEY DON'T WANT TO BLOODY RETIRE". before. Doesn't listen though.

He seems to think that the resf of the UK outside of the village is a bloody ghetto and me and the DC's will get mugged everyday. And he uses this to act like he's a big "protector" for keeping us safe on his compound while he goes out to work and provides for us all.

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lyralalala · 28/07/2019 16:00

@Beautiful3 I did read the post. I worked with many disabled people who drove modified cars. I'm pretty sure she could drive an automatic!!!

And what is it about an automatic is it that you think will make it drivable for someone with vertigo?

Honestly this attitude of “learn to drive” when someone has said that they can’t is ridiculous. If someone doesn’t feel safe to drive then that should be accepted. There are enough people driving who shouldn’t be without pressuring folks who know their conditions and know it wouldn’t be safe.

Cosentyx · 28/07/2019 15:59

I'd have left a long time ago. It's not about the car (or the fucking bike or what other bollocks people who don't RTFT spewed out), it's about a selfish twat of a man.

YouJustDoYou · 28/07/2019 15:55

He sounds awful op. At least if you got divorced you'd eventually have finances for your own place somewhere, however small.

Fcukthisshit · 28/07/2019 15:54

Have you thought about renting your place out for a year or so and renting a place somewhere more suitable to see what you think before committing to selling or a permanent swap? You could even do that long term if your hubby wants to consider retiring there?

StarlingsInSummer · 28/07/2019 15:52

YANBU at all. Your husband is really out of order - bad enough if he was around all the time too, or if you could drive easily, but to fuck off to socialise and work whenever he feels like it, leaving his lonely wife and kids going stir crazy, is so selfish. He should be thinking of their happiness, like you are - I’d say that was what being a parent is all about, making decisions for the good of the family, not just yourself.

DH and I made the decision when we were buying to get a house on the outskirts of a small market town instead of in the lovely little village where we’d been renting, mainly for DS’s convenience when he’s older. We now live 10 minutes walk from the local secondary school, 6 minutes from the local leisure centre, 5 minutes from a shop, with the town centre 20 minutes walk away, where there’s several pubs and restaurants, plus a couple of small supermarkets also within walking distance. We’re just off the main bus route to the three major towns in the area too. Annoyingly we’re a bit further from the one big primary school than I’d like - it’s half an hour’s dawdle with DS, and I do feel a bit jealous of friends with a lovely village primary down the street, but when DS is older, he’ll thank us, we hope - lots of places for weekend jobs, he’ll be able to socialise with friends and go to the gym, and easily catch a bus to one of the bigger towns for shopping. We’d like to retire to a tiny idyllic village but it’ll have to wait until DS goes to university.

IHateUncleJamie · 28/07/2019 15:52

@VizzyWoo I am disabled with chronic pain among other issues and my first thought was that walking for an hour would surely bring on chronic pain more than driving for 10 minutes. Then you mentioned your vertigo being brought on by driving which makes much more sense.

I do wonder though if your vertigo/dizziness when driving could be partly caused by anxiety? It would be perfectly understandable as it sounds as if you’ve been living in a controlling and unbelievably frustrating environment, controlled by your husband. Have you ever had any counselling? Is your vertigo being investigated? If not, why? If it’s permanent, can you get ESA or PIP to help with transport costs?

In the short term, does Tesco not deliver to you? They’re the only supermarket I’ve found who will deliver to very rural areas so that you don’t run out of essentials. I know that’s only a small part of your issues but I’m a firm believer in making small changes to make your life easier. With each step, you can feel a little stronger to start making the big changes.

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