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To tell DH me and the DC are moving and it's his choice whether he comes?

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VizzyWoo · 28/07/2019 13:53

We live in a tiny village of around 15 houses, basically a small estate in the middle of a field surrounded by farms. The village has no services, not even a shop. We've lived here since the DC's (now 15 and 12) were a toddler and newborn. The nearest shop is in another larger village 2.4 miles away, which may not seem like far but it's a lot when you don't drive (I suffer chronic pain that makes it difficult to drive). There are times when DH has been at work and I've had to walk an hour there and back into the larger village to get some milk. So 2 hours for a pint of milk. There is technically a bus that goes to the larger village one way and the nearest town the other way, but it's every other hour (and only turns up 50% of the time so more like every few hours) and stops at 4pm.

The DC's go to school in a town 5.4 miles away and it was a nightmare to get them in, we weren't in the catchment area and they didn't believe that they were the closest school. All of the admissions folk hadn't heard of our village. Eventually we got them in. Naturally both kids wanted independence when starting secondary school. We tried to let them both use the bus service in Year 7 but on the several times they tried the bus never turned up. So DH drives them on the way to work which they hate. Because the bus back to the village stops at 4pm (and never turns up in between them finishing school and 4) they have to wait around outside school until 6 each night for DH to get off work and pick them up.

DD starts college next year and it is 7 miles away. Bus again is completely out of the question. I have no idea how we are going to manage it as it's off DH's work route and DS's school route. We've actually had her in tears because she feels her social life is being damaged living here. If it's Saturday evening and all her friends are meeting up in town, she can never attend as DH CBA taking her. Her friends all go to the gym together and she can't go, DH won't take her. Friends eventually stopped asking her. DS is only 12 but he's starting to want to go out but can't. It's also my social life, I can't go to meet friends for a coffee etc and I am very lonely.

I have wanted to move for years, but DH always says no. His reasoning is that it's quiet and safe here, there is no crime. And that being here keeps the DC out of trouble. He also calls it his "Lovely quiet retirement home" (he's late 50s, is retiring in a few years). DD massively resents him for this. We have had many an argument about it. Personally, I think he is selfish. He has his car and can piss off whenever he likes, and he does. He gets to go into a city for work and is always down the pub in the larger village etc. While me and the DC are literally prisoner at home going out of our minds. He says I'm stupid for wanting to move into the nearby town, and that I'll be giving up our "lovely safe home". I think it's ridiculous. The vast majority of people in the UK live in towns/cities/suburbia nowadays and get on fine!

Me and the kids are becoming very lonely and depressed and he doesn't care or doesn't realize. I'm tempted to join a house swapper site (social housing) without his permission, and if we get someone interested then I will pursue it and he can either come with us or piss off. His choice, but either way me and the DC GO. I think I have a good chance of getting a swap, I'm sure the village is desirable to some. I know me and the kids need to leave this village, it's suffocating us. DD has literally been breaking her heart about it, 15 and going stir crazy. It's awful. I feel like we're being kept on DH's bloody compound.

I love DH but the kids come first. I feel they aren't going to thrive here and are lonely, isolated and depressed. As am I. I feel I need to take control here.

OP posts:
EasyLifer · 28/07/2019 15:28

Your poor DD. Mine is a bit older but I know their friends are everything to them at that age and being the only one unable to join in with a party would send teenage angst through the roof! Both DC will hate their father and resent you if this continues. YANBU to LTB as soon as practically possible.

VizzyWoo · 28/07/2019 15:27

DD's party is on. DD was unconsolable so I took his car keys off the table and said "Either you take her now or I am going to destroy these. See how YOU like it.". She has worked hard at school and deserves to be with her friends and have fun.

She's staying at a friends tonight post party. DH will be working till half 5 tomorrow and bus home probably won't turn up so I suspect she'll just stay at her friend's until DH can get off.

I really am reaching the end of my tether. I still love him somewhat but he has become such a twat.

OP posts:
lyralalala · 28/07/2019 15:27

He won't be able to stay in the house alone due to being a single person!

Unless you know the exact council or housing assocation the OP rents from that's a ridiculous thing to say in such a factual way. If that was the case there wouldn't be so many people still in family homes after the kids leave.

KatherineJaneway · 28/07/2019 15:27

I relate so much to your situation. I was your dd. I hated being so isolated. Sat at home night after night after fucking night as I couldn't go anywhere but parents could. They just got in an drove away. No thought to my life, it was a different time but still. It has affected me in later life as I now extremely value independence.

Nanny0gg · 28/07/2019 15:26

@IAskTooManyQuestions

Should read IAskTooManyQuestionsBecauseIdon'tReadTheOp'sPosts

She said -she has vertigo.

HJWT · 28/07/2019 15:25

@IAskTooManyQuestions Your an idiot, she has vertigo! Nothing wrong with her legs from what she has posted! Do you want her to run some over??

RTFT!!!

HJWT · 28/07/2019 15:23

1 - DON'T leave the house!! You are making yourself intentionally homeless and will NOT be re-housed.
2- You can't swap without his permission and how are you going to pay the bills if he is the only one in work? Do you get PIP or similar?

The best thing you can do is sit him down and tell him how it is, tell him he either moves with you all & keeps the family together OR you will go to the council and tell them you are no longer together and need a move due to medical needs as your DH was the driver, get a letter of your GP. If you get PIP take that to and evidence were DS and DD attend school!

He won't be able to stay in the house alone due to being a single person!

lyralalala · 28/07/2019 15:22

Cant have it both ways Im afraid. One of those statements is an exaggeration. And I am going to directly ask - what illness is this that you cant drive 10 minutes to the next village, but apparently you can walk for two hours for a pint of milk

The OP has already explained that she has vertigo.

It also takes the OP an hour to walk 2.4 miles which also shows that she's not exactly just going on a comfortable stroll to get the milk - it's a difficult walk for her because of her condition.

Dippypippy1980 · 28/07/2019 15:16

Leave. Your husband doesn’t sound like he cares about anyone else’s happiness, and is simply using you to keep his council house.

This is relationship make or break time. Look into your housing options if you leave with them he children - he is controlling.

Smelborp · 28/07/2019 15:16

I think he’ll block any attempt at a house swap so I think you need to speak with the council / shelter about options to move and be housed without his permission. You so sound like prisoners. Are there any parents you could ask for a huge favour that might get your DD on this occasion?

Willow2017 · 28/07/2019 15:14

I know you said you can't drive because of pain but surely if you can walk for 2 hours you can sit for 10 minutes?

FFS! RTFT.

Just because a person can walk doesnt mean that they arent in pain doing something else! There are so many types of pain that affect people in different ways doing different things, why cant people understand that.
Op doesnt need to explain what her condition is, although she has stated clearly how her vertigo affects her, if she has other conditions she doesnt have to tell the world about them. Saying I am in pain when driving is enough.

ALittleBitAlexis · 28/07/2019 15:11

If you can find a practical way out of this (not sure if the house swap would work if he's on the tenancy too), I think you and the kids should just leave as soon as you can.

He sounds perfectly content with his life, with no regard for his family, so why would he change? And if he actually did agree to move, you know he'd be resentful and a misery to live with because he's lost his retirement home.

Agree with PPs about getting some advice from Shelter etc if you need it.

billy1966 · 28/07/2019 15:09

OP, you have allowed him to control you for too long.
Your poor children.
They are going to resent you too for not stepping in.

He sounds like a mean selfish controlling man and you are allowing it.

You need to take control and move on this asap.
Can you send your children to family for a break from this horrible atmosphere and get yourself into the council and tell them you are looking to be moved due to his unreasonable behaviour.

Stop allowing him to control all your lives.

IAskTooManyQuestions · 28/07/2019 15:09

@saraclara - if you read properly you'll note I highlighted TWO of the OPs posts - the crippling pain/cant drive and the walk for 2 hours to get a pint of milk.

Cant have it both ways Im afraid. One of those statements is an exaggeration. And I am going to directly ask - what illness is this that you cant drive 10 minutes to the next village, but apparently you can walk for two hours for a pint of milk

it's a lot when you don't drive (I suffer chronic pain that makes it difficult to drive).

and

I've had to walk an hour there and back into the larger village to get some milk. So 2 hours for a pint of milk.

Hmm

So as I said before - either take your coffee black or learn to drive.

Ellie56 · 28/07/2019 15:07

plan was to go to family member, file as having left him and get rehoused

If this is still an option, I would do this OP. Your DH sounds like a selfish twat.

Waxonwaxoff0 · 28/07/2019 15:07

YANBU at all, living somewhere like that would be my worst nightmare. I don't drive and wouldn't live anywhere other than a large town with good transport.

lyralalala · 28/07/2019 15:07

It's also funny when people intantly say taxis when you live rural. I don't live quite as rural as the OP and you have to book a taxi a minimum of 48 hours in advance as there only is three

RandomMess · 28/07/2019 15:06

It sounds like it has all been about control. How utterly miserable of him not to drop DD off to her friends when he pisses of out with his mates as and when suits him. Threatening a custody battle if you moved out etc.

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lyralalala · 28/07/2019 15:05

Forget him moving. He won't, and it sounds like you'd all be better off without him.

If you live rurally with kids then you have to accept an element of being their taxi driver.

He quite clearly likes having you all isolated. Move with family, sort yourself out and leave him to his life as he is obviously quite happy having his own social life without any consideration for any of you

StaplesCorner · 28/07/2019 15:04

I'm just wondering if OP rang Shelter tomorrow to get advice, might she be able to tell him to go, a case for coercion/control?

Anyway, I am voting for getting advice tomorrow morning but you know if OP came back and said she'd called a cab and they were all off for good I'd be cheering and waving!

C8H10N4O2 · 28/07/2019 15:04

OP: if you are at home with the kids does he also control the finances?

Just wondering if you even have the option to buy bikes, mopeds, magical taxi firms, freezer loads of stores or all the other things suggested by people who always know they would manage so much better than people stuck in these situations.

KickAssAngel · 28/07/2019 15:03

How close are your family? Can someone pick the 3 of you up, get DD to the party & back (or get herself there if in the right place) and let you stay a week?

Then you and he can have a talk about what the future looks like.

Jux · 28/07/2019 15:03

I saved up over £1000 to buy dd a moped for her 16th birthday, despite it being a risk. Like your dd, she was sotd from her friends and activities because public transport is so shit in rural areas (and we're in a small town not even a village!).

DH had always refused to agree to a moped for dd, but as her 16th approached and he found I had actually enough money for it, he started listening.

Like your dh, he could go wherever and whenever liked while dd and I were trapped in a tiny area. Half the time he was 'busy' and couldn't taker her anywhere, some of the time he simply couldn't be arsed, on the few times she though it was all arranged with him he would have forgotten and made a massive fuss when reminded.

I told him he either did his duty by her with good grace or I bought her the bike.

I didn't buy the bike. Good grace comes with difficulty in him but he does try.

I do wish I'd bought her the bike anyway, mind. Just because ...

Nothingcomesforfree · 28/07/2019 15:02

I’d be surprised if they could move your DH out. It’s a secure tenancy. As long as he can afford the rent by himself it’s not an issue.

The tricky bit would be finding something you could afford with the two kids, especially with one at college. Are you on disability benefits? I’m sure that would help you be rehoused.

cakesandphotos · 28/07/2019 15:01

Would an electric bike be an option? I'm not sure how vertigo affects a person so possibly not but might be good in the meantime