Am I the only idiot that sticks to the 20 MPH limit?

Apparently more people are choosing to walk in 20 mile zones in cities which can only be a good thing. The less reliant we are on cars in cities the better.

Road near us with downhill limit of 20 it’s actually hard to do and feels weirdly slow. Has speed camera and most people I know me included got caught there. I always follow limit now don’t want anymore tickets

The limit is 20 in the small village where we live, we stick to it as do most people. The roads are narrow and winding some people have to park on the road as 15 century house were not built with garages! So it is dangerous to go too fast especially when the bus comes through, tractors, and the man driving his horses. If you want to go fast live by a motorway

Great post wibble

Why would you not stick to the speed limit? This is the very upper limit it is deemed safe to travel on a particular road. It's not a target, it's a limit. Drive to the conditions, sometimes 20 will be too fast for the conditions. Government stats say 80% of drivers break the 20mph speed limit. This is why it's Un-enforceable. There are simply too many doing it. Exactly the same with mobile phone use. It IS enforced but there are so many you simply can't catch all of them.

Most of the Highway Code IS law. If it says MUST it's part of the RTA, if it says SHOULD it's advice but contravening it could still be prosecuted under dangerous or careless driving.

Come back and say breaking the law is safe when drivers have stopped killing five people A DAY. You are driving two tons of metal with massive kinetic energy should there be a crash. Take responsibility for the lethal machinery and drive in accordance with your license that you need to be on a road. Pedestrians, cyclists, horses etc are there by RIGHT. Vehicles are dangerous so are there by licenses, drivers should remember that.

Why do people insist it's safer when the actual DATA show it's not?

It's easy to believe. Let's face it, the reason the speed limits are being lowered to stupidly low levels (even when the upper limits in some countries are being raised where new developments have made travelling at such speeds safer) is because it is the cheapest way to show "something" is being done about RTAs. Doesn't need proof that it works; it's a visual way of showing that the LA cares while in actuality sweet FA is being done because of a severe lack of funds.

Actually dealing with the real issues is far too costly, because a lot of it comes down to roads being far too narrow in our towns and cities and that cannot be easily (and cheaply) rectified.

In this case, the law is an ass. That doesn't actually mean I speed in 20s BTW.

Why do people insist it's safer when the actual DATA show it's not?

Whatever the data says, it doesn't give you the right to break the speed limit.

Why do people insist it's safer when the actual DATA show it's not?

Post-truth?

I stick to 20 in a 20 limit. I am happy my road has a 20mph limit. I am happy that my hybrid yaris makes practically no emissions and burns virtually no petrol at 20mph - soon there will be lots of cars like this. I am happy that the road between my house and my kids school is a 20mph limit because in the event of an accident a collision at 20mph is massively less likely to be fatal than a 30mph collision.
Of course I feel frustrated when I am in a hurry driving through another area with a 20mph limit and wishing I could go at 30mph. But I remind myself that the doors I am driving past contain families like mine who are benefitting from the lower speed limit in many ways, who deserve to live on a safer and less polluted street. I'm a fan.

I always stick to speed limits.

Lots of 20's round here.

I wonder if 20mph roads are cheaper to maintain than 30

I do too. Our road is a "feeder road" for a new estate . It's 20 mph. You can always tell who's heading for the new estate because they tailgate you and generally drive like twats. We take bets that they are going to turn off onto the estate. Without fail. Odd because their kids go to the school that is being protected by the 20mph.

You may not like it. But it’s the law

Philosophically, having stupid laws make all laws look slightly untrustworthy. If we know deaths increase in 20 zones but the local government keeps doing it, I will be more dubious about their other decisions.

It's the same reasoning as legalising cannabis. If 'normal' behaviour makes the majority of young people/drivers criminals, changing the law is normally better than rigidly enforcing it. Which is why the police generally don't waste their time on 20 zones or cannabis.

But apparently the highway code ISN'T law so why do some people take notice of it and is that why most people do NOT?

What has this got to do with speed limits? Speed limits are the law hence the reason people get fined for breaking them!

I've seen a camera van in a 20 zone before, so I assume they can enforce (unless it was catching people doing over 30?).

I do stick to 20mph. No bugger else does.

Our road is 20. Some people come down it at 50-60. Utter fucking arseholes.

It will be interesting when they start putting average speed cameras in 20mph zones.

I stick to what ever the legal limit is. I don’t understand why some people think it’s one rule for one and one rule for another. You may not like it. But it’s the law

What MrsTerryPratchett said.

They've started randomly reducing the speedlimits to 20 on some roads around by me. There is no logic to it, and no time restrictions (eg on school drop off and pick up times).
In truth, when you've been driving on said roads for 30+ yars, it is easy to forget some Councillor has decided that one road is suddenly going to be reduced to 20 for no apparent reason.

Lots of 20 roads in my town, including my narrow street. I stick to the limit and of someone gets too close to me I drop down to 15 to annoy them (only if 1 car behind me of course).

Visibility on our road is poor, people drive like twats and we have lots of young children in the area.

I stick to the 20mph limit.
I'm finding the 'skid risk' temporary 20mph difficult, though. No-one else seems to give a damn.

Our road is a very wide and straight one, and people like to whizz up and down it. It was made 20 a few years back but hardly anyone abides by it, I took it up with our local police and was told that the 20mph limit can't be enforced only from 30 upwards, so they can't do speed camera traps for it? I took their word for it but not so sure now!

Here in Edinburgh the whole city is pretty much 20 now, it’s ridiculous as many roads do not require such slow speeds, the majority of people still do 30 and the ones who go 20 frustrate other drivers who try and over take on roads that they shouldn’t.

It's not particularly a city thing. It's very common around where I live (in both villages and towns) to have a 20mph limit on entering residential streets. I stick to the limit.

Never seen a road at 20, which is really slow, unless it's near a school at school start/end times only. Obviously keep to it then. Is it a city thing? I don't tend to drive in cities as public transport is often easier/cheaper than parking.