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New job expects employees to work a month in hand?

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MoominMantra · 10/07/2019 20:35

I've just started a new job and our contract just states we get paid on 28th of each month. When I asked about when we're paid she said we get paid for June on 28th July, July on 28th August and this essentially means that I have to work 6 weeks without any money which seems unfair to me.

What would be the reason behind this?

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MoominMantra · 10/07/2019 21:26

No I'm not on variable hours.

I previously worked for a big company who paid me month by month.

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Drogonssmile · 10/07/2019 21:24

Normal for me in nhs

MoominMantra · 10/07/2019 21:23

I started on 12th June. Those of you who say it's normal you seem to work in public services though? None of my previous jobs have been this way and I've had to borrow money from my mum.

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cdtaylornats · 10/07/2019 21:23

It is to stop you being destitute if you leave.

Mummyoflittledragon · 10/07/2019 21:23

I’d be questioning if the company has financial difficulties. They’re expecting you to have worked on 29th May and not pay you for that day until 28th July.

StripyHorse · 10/07/2019 21:21

Are you on variable hours? I used to work in HR and the standard was to be paid towards the end info the calendar month for all hours contracted in that month, ie all of July pay on 25th July (or whatever the pay date is).

But, for casual workers on zero hours contracts they were paid the following month, ie they worked in July, the hours worked were submitted in time for August payroll and they got paid the end of August. I know the same is true for many other casual workers paid monthly e.g. supply teachers paid through the LEA (agencies tend to pay weekly).

bluebluezoo · 10/07/2019 21:19

Normal.

I used to have an nhs job where you worked June, submitted your shifts worked by end july, got paid in the aug run.

Great when you left as you got two more pay packets!

But yes, my new job I started in aug 10 last year, so missed the aug pay run, so got 6 weeks pay in sept.

butteryellow · 10/07/2019 21:19

I've had the month in arrears, the 2 weeks in advance/2 weeks in arrears, and the whole extra delay the first month, and variable bits of pay being paid later than standard pay, but I've never been paid 2 months in arrears!

Do you have a staff handbook?

I've had jobs with 2 weeks notice, 1 month notice, and 3 months notice - with no relation to my payment periods.

chuttypicks · 10/07/2019 21:18

What date did you start?

EleanorOalike · 10/07/2019 21:15

It’s normal. I teach at a University, started in September and wasn’t paid until November!

AbbyHammond · 10/07/2019 21:12

I've never experienced this - periods might be something like 23/1-22/2 paid on 28/2, but never 2 months in arrears.

somewheresorted · 10/07/2019 21:12

No 2 months isn’t normal and I work in payroll.

WhoWants2Know · 10/07/2019 21:11

I have had this in posts that are paid on timesheets as opposed to salary.

MorganKitten · 10/07/2019 21:10

Sounds normal to me

letsrunfar · 10/07/2019 21:08

Historically I think you worked the equivalent of your notice period in hand. ie; a months notice period equals a month in hand when you start. It stops you walking out without working notice.

Where I work, if you start before a certain point in the month, you'll get a part payment. But I think that's quite lucky considering the other posts!

TarragonSauce · 10/07/2019 21:08

I expected this when I started a new job on 2 Jan, but was very surprised to receive pay on 28 January. Also, with our expenses allowances (eg mileage for training courses) is paid with the current month with a cut off date of 20th. We also get our pay slips emailed a week in advance and have 2 working days to raise any queries if we want them sorted in the current month. Overtime is still paid a month in arrears.
I was very pleasantly surprised, I tell you. But whilst not paying the highest rates this company has a very good rep for staff conditions.
Although I am on a fixed 25 hrs/week contract, so perhaps that's why it seems so straightforward.

Michaelbaubles · 10/07/2019 21:04

I’ve never had this in teaching - you get paid on the last working day of the month but it’s for that month, not the month before. So you get your first pay on the last day of September, not October.

peanutbutterandbanana · 10/07/2019 21:02

Gosh, I get paid on 15th of month for the whole month, ie 2 weeks in arrears and 2 weeks ahead.

soulrider · 10/07/2019 21:02

I'd be very surprised if most people are paid 2 months in arrears, despite many claiming it up thread (i suspect some have misread) 1 month is typical.

RicStar · 10/07/2019 21:02

I have never known this. If you miss payroll you may have to wait e.g. 6 weeks for pay but normally then get 6 weeks pay. So if you start say 16 june you might not get paid until 28th july but that would be 6 weeks so you would have caught up not two weeks.

LL83 · 10/07/2019 21:01

It is not normal for anyone I know. You may get a delay first month due to timing eg get paid 6 weeks on 28th of July as missed cut off for 28th of June. But 28th of August would be for work done in August.

Who is "she" could she be mistaken?

adaline · 10/07/2019 21:00

It's normal in a lot of places.

Where I am you get paid for each month as you work it, but any overtime is paid a month behind (so May's overtime is in June's paycheck).

Likethebattle · 10/07/2019 20:59

Always paid in arrears unless I start before payroll cut off.

KittenSnuggler · 10/07/2019 20:58

I would check if an advance of salary is available for new starters. The CS does this so new employees don't have to wait for weeks for their first wage.

LemonPastries · 10/07/2019 20:58

Oh hang on your example is actually saying TWO months in hand?

No that’s not normal!

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