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New job expects employees to work a month in hand?

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MoominMantra · 10/07/2019 20:35

I've just started a new job and our contract just states we get paid on 28th of each month. When I asked about when we're paid she said we get paid for June on 28th July, July on 28th August and this essentially means that I have to work 6 weeks without any money which seems unfair to me.

What would be the reason behind this?

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arethereanyleftatall · 10/07/2019 21:55

A few people have suggested other people are 'confused' if they get paid two months in arrears.
I can assure you I'm not confused. Simply stating that in my company you could paid for work done on 1st June on 25th July. Like many others, clearly.
It's swings and roundabouts. Shit at the beginning of your employment, marvellous at the end.

NaturalBornWoman · 10/07/2019 21:55

Are you expecting them to pay you for a month before you’ve worked any of it?

No! RTFT

She's expecting to get paid at the end of the month she's just worked. This is normal. It's possible due to start dates and payroll deadlines that in the first month the deadline is missed and the pay for that month is carried over to the following payroll. It is not normal for salaried employees to be paid a whole month in arrears, so June pay paid at the end of July. It used to be common when people were paid weekly. I have never heard of this in any sector for salaried employees.

cccameron · 10/07/2019 21:54

Private sector here, financial services, and this is the norm. Both public and private sector I have always worked a month in hand. Is this your first job OP?

MoominMantra · 10/07/2019 21:50

'So you will have worked 6 weeks, then on payday will receive 2 weeks pay? '

Yes. And I'm out of pocket to the tune of £300 which I've paid out in travel costs (for training I've been sent on in other cities) in June which I also won't receive until the end of July with my wages.

I feel like crying tbh. I work extremely hard and every job I get has some problem. Maybe that's just life?

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EB100 · 10/07/2019 21:47

In my workplace, as long as we can verify you have started by the 20th, you get paid even if we run the risk of you leaving 3 days before month end and therefore being overpaid. I would think no matter how complex a payroll is, 12th is a bit early as surely your paperwork is ready well in advance and can therefore be processed even if payroll cut off is the 10th. Unfortunately they will have their rules in place and the only person to blame would be the one who did not inform you before you accepted the post. I would ask if their deadline was indeed earlier, or if someone had forgotten to hand your paperwork in (that happens too - if it was human error I would insist on getting paid)

Newyearnewunicorn · 10/07/2019 21:41

I’ve been paid like this when I worked for a quango so I worked April and April was paid at the end of May and this system continued all the time.
Another job in the public sector I was paid for April at the end of April and any over time or expenses for April were paid at the of May.
Private sector and charity sector jobs have always paid at the end of the month worked in full including overtime and expenses.

arethereanyleftatall · 10/07/2019 21:40

My company does this. Everyone Active. Timesheets in for June on 1st July. Paid about 25th July.

Yabbers · 10/07/2019 21:38

Everywhere I have ever worked does this.

Are you expecting them to pay you for a month before you’ve worked any of it?

topcat2014 · 10/07/2019 21:38

I think people are getting confused. I am a finance director, and have never run payrolls "a month in hand" as that would imply you start on 1 January, get paid 1 months salary on 28th February and ARE STILL OWED a month pay for work already done.

What people are talking about is the various cutoff rules, so, depending on when you start it could be six weeks until you get paid.

I am fairly certain that, if you are paid monthly, when you get paid, you are getting paid for the full calendar month you are in.

CAVEAT - I have only worked in the private sector, so accept the public sector could do something totally different.

Supersimpkin · 10/07/2019 21:38

This happened to me once - a very badly run organisation. I would check with Acas as hanging on for weeks and weeks to pay employees can be illegal.

Redcrayons · 10/07/2019 21:37

Oh, I’ve just re read your OP and you’re two months in hand. That’s a bit more unusual.

Who is ‘She’ in the scenario? Could she have got it wrong
Take it up with someone more senior or who runs the payroll. Nobody can go 8 weeks without being paid.

KennDodd · 10/07/2019 21:35

I get paid like this. So, I get paid for June at the end of July.

BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 10/07/2019 21:35

So you will have worked 6 weeks, then on payday will receive 2 weeks pay?

That's not right surely+

slashlover · 10/07/2019 21:34

I started a new job on the 10th June and wont get paid until the 23 July as the cut off is the end of the previous month. 23rd July payment covers 1st-30th June, luckily my UC is 5 weeks behind so July payment wont change as it covers the period until 7th June.

MoominMantra · 10/07/2019 21:33

No I'm not on a zero hours contract.

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EB100 · 10/07/2019 21:32

Are you salaried or zero contract? In my work, if you were salaried, if you start up to 20th of month, you will get paid 28th. If zero hours, all the hours worked from 01/06 to 30/06 will be paid end Jul (only because it is a monthly payroll and easier to keep record) This should have been made clear to you when offered the job though so you could be prepared.

FermatsTheorem · 10/07/2019 21:31

One month in arrears is normal, two months is not.

leghairdontcare · 10/07/2019 21:30

Are people getting confused? This is not standard, especially not in public services.

Obviously there is a cut off for payroll so if they said you've missed the cut off and will be paid 6 weeks salary (2 weeks june, 4 weeks july) on the 28th of July then that's fine. But it appears that they're saying you'll only get paid 2 weeks wages in July and then wait for your July pay in August and so on. That is crazy.

myself2020 · 10/07/2019 21:30

normal. i started my last job mid november (day after payroll run),got paid in january for the first timr

chuttypicks · 10/07/2019 21:30

It just depend on the date of their payroll cutoff. Ask them what their payroll cut of date is. You should at least have received something at the end of June as you started on the 12th.

MoominMantra · 10/07/2019 21:29

@Teddybear45 I could understand if I didn't get June's money until July as I didn't work the whole month but it continues like that afterwards.

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MoominMantra · 10/07/2019 21:28

There is nothing in the staff handbook about getting paid 2 months in arrears - it just says we are paid on 28th.

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Oblomov19 · 10/07/2019 21:27

Goodness.
And the example of pp who said may OT gets paid in June, is standard.
But that's not the same thing as OP is referring to.

dreichhighlands · 10/07/2019 21:27

I don't think it is that unusual, it is one of the issues with changing jobs sometimes.

Teddybear45 · 10/07/2019 21:26

I work for a huge bank and it’s exactly the same. If you don’t hit the cut off you don’t get paid for 6 weeks. It probably says something in your contract or employee handbook.

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