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to ask what year group is worst

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dancingdemon · 09/07/2019 20:48

Well not exactly worst but hardest to be a teacher or head of year of. DD2 is in Y9 and her HOY as mentioned to me that Y9 is a tough one especially with the two extremes of the popular, disruptive groups (which DD is sadly in but that’s another thread!) and the quieter, more lonely/easy to fall under the radar pupils (which DD3 is but in a younger year)

Just curious of the pros and cons of each year group generally really

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dancingdemon · 09/07/2019 21:53

@be47 and everyone talking about Y8 being immature etc, totally agree. 2017-2018 when DD was in Y8 (almost two years ago she started y8 and behaviour is still awful) her class was much more disruptive than now but other, more significant issues have arisen with the teenagers since Y9 started, they turned 14 etc

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dancingdemon · 09/07/2019 21:52

@luanmapo Honestly could have written that exact post about my own DD. It’s a painfully almost exact situation. GrinBlush

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VanillaSugarr · 09/07/2019 21:48

8 and 9!!

stoplickingthetelly · 09/07/2019 21:47

I actually quite like teaching year 9 most of the time. For me year 8 are the worst. As a previous poster said - they are often silly and immature. Pupils who were sensible and hardworking in year 7 seem to come back after the summer completely changed.

exLtEveDallas · 09/07/2019 21:47

In Primary, Year 5 and the last 6 weeks of Year 6.

In Secondary, Year 7 boys and Year 9 girls.

WhiteDust · 09/07/2019 21:41

Two years ago: Year 9
Last year : Year 7 (much better now they're in Year 8)
This year : Year 7 again

I'd have said in the past 8 and 9 but some of our Year7s are coming in nowadays with attitude, extreme immaturity & neediness.Angry

SudowoodoVoodoo · 09/07/2019 21:37

Year 8 or 9. Increasingly year 8 as time went on. I suspect hormones increasingly hitting when they are less mature has an effect.

I suspect my child protection friend would go for older where they have more freedom to get tangled up in external influences, but for routine school matters, the GCSE years are more focused and purposeful.

aliceelizaloves · 09/07/2019 21:37

In my experience years 8 and 9. Although 8 is more the loud, silly disruptive behaviour with lots of friendship issues and 9 the more cutting, premeditated difficult behaviour with more bullying and issues with boys. That's in my experience of 6 years of teaching at a girls school anyway.

managedmis · 09/07/2019 21:37

9

YouFellAsleep · 09/07/2019 21:36

My DD is just finishing year 9 and it's been a breeze, in fact years 7-9 have been great, so much easier than primary school. My DS has really struggled in year 4 and can't wait to see the back of it. Guess every child is different.

be47 · 09/07/2019 21:35

Re: year 8 being immature - I know they're 12/13, but so many of them literally regress over the summer after being mature and sensible year 7s!

(This may also be coloured by my current year 8 cohort being particularly challenging)

be47 · 09/07/2019 21:33

YEAR 8!

From a teacher's perspective, they're the forgotten year.
Year 7 - new to the school, being a bit babied, get lots of attention
Year 9 - can be a bit grim, but we're trying to get them ready for GCSE/get them to pick the subject
Year 10 - mostly focused, past the worst of puberty
Year 11 - hyper-focused on GCSEs, lots of attention/intervention
Post-16 - basically adults for the most part, can normally be trusted to get on with things

Year 8 are (sorry to parents of year 8s!) normally silly, immature, get less attention from staff due to all the other year groups, hormones are flying and they're comfortable enough in the school to start playing up and pushing the boundaries.

RussianSpyBot · 09/07/2019 21:32

My gosh. This sounds like the twin poster. One popular but deviant child and the other, quite ordinary.

It sounds like your child is being annoying and preventing others from learning. Start parenting

mamaduckbone · 09/07/2019 21:31

Oh God...ds1 is about to go into year 9 and has almost overnight turned into a surly teenager glued to his phone and hiding in his room unless eating or going out. Fun times ahead.

luanmapo · 09/07/2019 21:28

@dancingdemon
Yes!!!! I’m on first name terms with head of pastoral care and I’m not proud of that.
We try and be the best parents we can and be a straight forward functioning family and do our best to keep communication lines open with our DD, but the truth is she just doesn’t care! She is loud, obnoxious, dramatic and rude and it breaks my heart. It’s had a huge bearing on our whole family.
She has no interests other than her friends and music. We’ve tried to get her involved with so much, but she isn’t interested.
Not sure what to do other than to just try and get through these next few years as best we can.

EndoplasmicReticulum · 09/07/2019 21:27

Ex-teacher.

Yup, year 9.

Although I'd rather teach year 9 than primary any day....

bridgetreilly · 09/07/2019 21:25

Yr 9. But also, it sounds like the HOY was talking about a specific year group who have been difficult all the way through, rather than every year group being hard when they hit year 9.

Bugsymalonemumof2 · 09/07/2019 21:21

My old head always used to say it was year 9 where things often disintegrated

dancingdemon · 09/07/2019 21:20

@luanmapo I sympathise completely!! DH and I are often called in for meetings, have been emailed regularly etc (her HOY and I know so much about each other’s lives and schedules and as a result the usual weekly email mentions that she’s sorry to email on Saturday evening as she knows DS has hockey practice but DD and friends have been misbehaving!!)

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Cuddlysnowleopard · 09/07/2019 21:19

I was on an exclusion course last year (for governors). Every example the course leader had involved Year 9. He said in his, very extensive experience, it was generally Year 9 boys. Sad

DS1 is year 10, and one of his classmates was expelled last year. School had handled his behaviour etc until then, until a combination of puberty, access to alcohol, drugs and eventually knives, brought it to a head.

Year 10, they're far more mature.

luanmapo · 09/07/2019 21:18

My DD is year 9 and it has been the toughest year of my life!!!
I have been into school more times than I care to remember over various issues. Fallouts and behaviour most times.
She is absolutely raging with hormones and it has been an endless battle and I cannot see any end to it at present!!
My son on the other hand has finished year 11 and has absolutely sailed through school without any issues whatsoever. He is polar opposite to his sister!
I’ve 2 more to go through teenage years as yet 😳

Dionysa · 09/07/2019 21:18

Year 8/9. FML.

HellYeah90s · 09/07/2019 21:14

When I was at school it was year 8/9, I went to an all girls school and my god it got quite bitchy when we became about 13.

Everyone was falling out with someone, girls testing boundaries at school (no longer sweet good behaved yr7s!)

dancingdemon · 09/07/2019 21:14

Yeah year 9 is the year they turn 14

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nobreakfastforme · 09/07/2019 21:13

What age is year 9?

3rd year in Scotland was bad as far as I can remember so approx 14yo's

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