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To ask those in food service to please take requests for decaf seriously?

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EveryDayImHustlin · 01/06/2019 18:48

Ok before anyone says it, I know I could just not drink tea/coffee at all, and most of the time I don’t, but I love the taste and occasionally I really fancy a cup. And decaf exists for a reason right?

I’ve never been able to handle caffeine and it started giving me terrible headaches and migraines in my early twenties, so I gave it up for good. I can handle the small amounts in chocolate but have to be careful not to have too much (really dark chocolate especially can trigger something if I have more than a square or two) but tea/coffee/coke/Red Bull etc are completely out.

Anyway, on several occasions recently I’ve found myself ordering a decaf tea or coffee, triple checking with the person serving that it’s definitely decaf (usually getting an eye roll for doing so) and then winding up with a thumping headache an hour later anyway.

I was especially annoyed today because we ordered from a place that’s meant to be particularly good on allergens etc, and yet my ‘decaf’ coffee definitely wasn’t.

If you work in any kind of food service, AIBU to ask that you actually give someone decaf if they ask for it?!

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3luckystars · 01/06/2019 22:57

Also, I rarely ever drink coffee and don't like it. If I am forced to have one, with no choice but to drink a coffee, the next time I pee, I can smell coffee from it.
It's so strong! I wonder does this happen everyone, and does the smell get stronger the more coffee you drink?

I have also noticed the speed of it, it would be there 10 minutes after drinking coffee. So the caffiene must be in your system lightening fast.

This seemed like the right place to bring that up.

EveryDayImHustlin · 01/06/2019 22:50

3luckystars I can’t carry around my own personal espresso machine and milk frother though sadly 😭

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3luckystars · 01/06/2019 22:48

My friend drinks decaf tea and always has them in her handbag, she brings her own. Do this.

Treefloof · 01/06/2019 22:48

I had to give up coffee away from home, I too need decaf and that's ok with me (sorta) I adore coffee but caffeine gives me migraines. No doubt about it.
I never even knew the purple handle or anything, I just assumed decaf would mean decaf. Apparently not.
So I stopped drinking outside, in Starbucks, Costa or Nero. Sod em. I need to be migraine free. So OP yanbu

EveryDayImHustlin · 01/06/2019 22:43

The correct solution is for all food outlets to train all their staff to treat all such requests as potentially health-critical and to treat them all as if non-compliance might land you in a Pulp Fiction situation.

That’s exactly the point of my AIBU! While I welcome all the helpful suggestions on how to make sure I get decaf when I ask for decaf, they aren’t quite the point of my little rant in the first place which was simply to ask that people take it seriously (so that those of us who are caffeine sensitive don’t cause baristas everywhere to have nervous breakdowns with our repeated emphasis on ‘decaf’ Wink)

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EveryDayImHustlin · 01/06/2019 22:40

Thank you GreytExpectations and suggestion noted but I still wonder if IABU to just expect decaf when I ask for decaf!

I personally don’t see how it’s less pressuring or patronising to say ‘please make sure it’s decaf as I have a medical condition’ rather than just saying ‘sorry can I just check, is this decaf?’ which is what I usually do, but apparently the latter is rude and will make the barista feel under more pressure?

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SisterMaryLoquacious · 01/06/2019 22:40

The problem is that 9/10 requests for decaf or sugar free syrup or skimmed milk are motivated by a general desire to “be healthy” and no particular harm will be done by lack of compliance. The correct solution is for all food outlets to train all their staff to treat all such requests as potentially health-critical and to treat them all as if non-compliance might land you in a Pulp Fiction situation.

In the meantime the answer for the OP is to flag up - “decaff - I have a serious reaction to caffeine btw so please do double check”. Tedious but should do the job.

GreytExpectations · 01/06/2019 22:24

I only get a latte maybe once every few weeks as a treat but might have to give that up sad

Come on now, you are being a bit dramatic constantly saying you will have to give it up. Ive said already multiple times just tell them the reason as that seems to work for a lot of people i know.

EveryDayImHustlin · 01/06/2019 22:22

So which cafes/chains are the best at honouring decaf orders?

My fiancé drinks decaf most of the time now (although he doesn’t suffer like me if he accidentally has caffeine) and he says Pret are really good, with the stickers that someone else mentioned upthread. I’ve never had coffee from there myself but guess they’re extra careful especially after all the allergy stuff in the news lately.

Maybe I need a permanent sticker on my travel mug saying ‘decaf please!’

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GreytExpectations · 01/06/2019 22:21

or do you just feel confident that you’ll get soy because that’s what you’ve asked for?

This is the case for me, i just say "soya latte" or "almond milk latte" and its right.

Because I would just really be able to ask for decaf and know I’ll get decaf. But that just isn’t remotely guaranteed

Of course itd be perfect to just say decaff but it appears to not be working for you so try stating due to an allergy and see how that works. I think asking multiple times, triple checking and watching them make it isnt the right approach whereas stating the reason would work better and be less time wasted

lljkk · 01/06/2019 22:20

I had a housemate 30 yrs ago who was gluten & dairy intolerant. She often reacted badly to fast food she had ordered, presumably from X-contamination. Yet she kept habit of ordering fast food when out & about rather than take her own food to be sure her food was safe. Or she could have bought safe things in supermarkets (we lived in big city with diverse food choices everywhere).

Her risk to take. Didn't look like fun.
Her problems after eating out were so frequent I didn't feel sympathy after a while. She could have planned better to reduce the risk.

EveryDayImHustlin · 01/06/2019 22:19

speakout I have about 20 different Pukka varieties in my kitchen and I normally order peppermint tea when I’m out, I only get a latte maybe once every few weeks as a treat but might have to give that up Sad

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purplecat27 · 01/06/2019 22:18

Definitely not being unreasonable! I'm really feeling this right now, I've got a heart condition and stopped drinking caffeine nearly 10 years ago when I was diagnosed. I had a 'decaf' coffee around 6pm today which definitely wasn't decaf, I'm still having palpitations on and off now. It's annoying because I do like coffee. I think most of the time it's done accidentally by someone making a regular coffee on autopilot, rather than that they can't be bothered or have run out of decaf or whatever. But it's like accidentally giving somebody with a nut allergy something with nuts in, it can have severe health consequences for some people. I don't think you'd say somebody with a nut allergy was being unreasonable for taking a risk and eating out, and should just never eat out. Requests for decaf should be treated as seriously as requests for food without nuts (or whatever allergen) in.

EveryDayImHustlin · 01/06/2019 22:17

whyohwhyowhydididoit I’m in London too but I only moved here a few years ago, used to be up North. Thinking about it, I actually don’t think I ever had this problem when I lived elsewhere, maybe baristas in London are just more rushed off their feet!

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Nomorechickens · 01/06/2019 22:16

Grin at the poster who said that herbal teas are as nice as regular coffee or tea. Er, no they're not, they're on a different planet, and they're not even tea.

speakout · 01/06/2019 22:15

It may be easier to switch to anothe beverage that can't be confused.

Herbal tea maybe? I can't drink too much caffeine, it cuts confusion altogether by ordering a peppermint or fruit tea.

PQ77 · 01/06/2019 22:14

YANBU. I love coffee, love the flavour, but get very jittery and upset stomach from too much. And it affects my sleep. But I still drink it and decaf is a treat. I also find some cafes better than others at taking care with what they’re serving. I can usually tell within 5 minutes if they haven’t given me the decaf I’ve asked for by which time it’s too late.

So which cafes/chains are the best at honouring decaf orders?

EveryDayImHustlin · 01/06/2019 22:13

I think it's patronising to assume people dont realise a dietary choice could come from a medical need. But as i said before, just say that you have an allergy so they definitely realise it because of medical purposes.

Genuine question, when you order soy do you always say ‘because I can’t have dairy’ or do you just feel confident that you’ll get soy because that’s what you’ve asked for?

Because I would just really be able to ask for decaf and know I’ll get decaf. But that just isn’t remotely guaranteed (and from the replies on this thread I’m obviously not the only one!)

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whyohwhyowhydididoit · 01/06/2019 22:13

I wonder where you are in the U.K. OP? I live in London and 8 or 9 years ago this was a definite issue for me. Once in a while I’d be given caffeinated instead of decaf and I’d be shaking and stuttering within an hour. Thankfully over the years it has got much better and I cannot remember the last time it happened.

OhYouBadBadKitten · 01/06/2019 22:13

So the op is being accused of being controlling because she watches to make sure that they don't make an error that clearly is being made? and in doing that forces them to make an error?
That's ridiculous.

Caffeine makes me poorly too and I often have to correct orders that don't get passed on properly.

EveryDayImHustlin · 01/06/2019 22:11

Honestly, ive been drinking soy/almond or other dairy free in my lattes for last 3 years and my sister for much longer and never had a instance where they didnt give me what i ordered.

Right but... that’s my point. I would like requests for decaf to be taken as seriously as requests for dairy free. If that makes sense?

Costa are generally ok for me although I did have one woman argue that I hadn’t asked for decaf (I definitely did, obviously) and try to make me take the regular one so she wouldn’t have to make it again, which is the kind of thing I mean where it’s sometimes viewed as a preference rather than a requirement. That was a one off though and generally my local Costa aren’t too bad.

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GreytExpectations · 01/06/2019 22:09

realise that it can come from a medical need, that’s all

I think it's patronising to assume people dont realise a dietary choice could come from a medical need. But as i said before, just say that you have an allergy so they definitely realise it because of medical purposes.

EveryDayImHustlin · 01/06/2019 22:08

Jamhandprints I don’t go to Nero now but I used to live near one and thinking back, I don’t think I ever had a problem there. They even used to make me decaf frappes which are my absolute favourite 🤤 maybe I need to find one here!

The worst offender for me has been Starbucks, and the cafe in the building where I work.

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GreytExpectations · 01/06/2019 22:07

might query it if you ordered soy milk and saw them pouring your milk out of a Graham’s Dairy jug

Honestly, ive been drinking soy/almond or other dairy free in my lattes for last 3 years and my sister for much longer and never had a instance where they didnt give me what i ordered. It just seems like you must be having bad luck to constantly be getting the wrong drink- specially at places like Costas and Starbuck as they have a lot of options.

EveryDayImHustlin · 01/06/2019 22:05

the way your wrote you posts made it out like they are deliberately giving you full caffeine

I repeatedly said that I don’t think it’s deliberate but that I don’t think people take the request seriously enough or realise that it can come from a medical need, that’s all!

And I only feel the need to make sure because of all the times when I didn’t check and ended up feeling ill...

This thread is basically confirming the feeling I already had which is that I just shouldn’t risk it. A shame because as I said right at the start, decaf surely exists for a reason? But if people think it’s unreasonable to want to be able to rely on that then I guess I will just resign myself to never having a delicious gingerbread latte again 😭

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