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SpamChaudFroid · 24/05/2019 07:10

After nearly 3 months of sciatic pain, (it's bad, I need a stick to be able to walk, well shuffle really) and many different drugs, (codiene, amitriptyline, diazepam) my GP has prescribed gabapentin. I am seeing a physio who has made an appointment for a second opinion as to whether it needs further invstigation, (eg. steroid injections or material removed).

Has this worked for anyone? please someone tell me it works

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SpamChaudFroid · 11/06/2019 12:15

I know what you mean Belle, on the days I have appointments re. the sciatica it always seems to fall on a "good" day and it makes me feel a bit of a fraud. I'm not going to take pain meds for my appointment this week.

I felt like the HCPs really began to listen when I told them the pain was impacting on my mental health, (it was). Constant 4/10 pain isn't something you should have to suck up, surely? Are you being prescribed anything for it? Gabapentin is working very well for me, I have almost no pain apart from when walking or standing, and I'm able to walk further before it starts. I'm on 900 a day which isn't a giant dose at all. Saying that, I wasn't offered any drugs, I had to ask for them all except the gabapentin which my GP suggested after 10 weeks and many appointments. And like I've said before, I don't think women's pain is taken as seriously, plus sadly female socialisation causing us not to want to make a fuss.

How are you and your Eggbertito today Eggbert? Any closer to being able to mosh to The Spice Girls? Grin

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BogstandardBelle · 11/06/2019 08:49

Hello fellow sciatica sufferers!

I'm bumping this back up to ask your advice / experiences... I've had back problems for over 20 years now. The latest flare-up has been the worst by far, but looking back they always follow the same pattern. i.e. my back is generally a bit painful (2/10) all the time, and always feels fragile. I have to be careful how I move / bend / sit etc. Eventually I move wrongly or do some gardening or do something that "triggers" it (this time I stepped down off a kerb and the road was much further away than I thought so I really jarred down onto my left leg - by the next morning I was immobile and in agony 9/10). I suffer, lie on the floor, take painkillers, etc. Eventually, the pain subsides and I get back to "normal" after 3-4 weeks. Then it all just begins again at some point...

My question is, I guess, how do I tackle this when it's so variable? Do I have to just accept that I have a "bad back" and live with these periodic episodes of agony? Since it's not constant pain, should I be looking at self-help i.e. losing weight, doing back / core exercises etc before considering anything more drastic? I don't know what the reasonable expectations are - should I be aiming for / insisting on being totally pain-free all the time?

As far as diagnosis goes, I have a slight scoliosis, bulging discs l4-l5 and l5-s1, sciatic pain in both legs / hips, and some signs of arthritic damage. This has come from X-rays - I haven't had an MRI, which I suppose is the next step. I have a rdv with a rhumatologue / spine specialist today, and I guess I am worried about presenting with my current 4/10 pain level rather than my peak 9/10 one, and not being taken seriously as a result.

EggbertHeartsTina · 09/06/2019 08:41

Haha love a bit of Daniel

Yes I’m finding my back and various other parts of my body are getting tired / achy from overcompensating with my leg :(

So glad you found codeine so helpful! Must’ve been good to get moving properly and you probably did some good moving about so much. Codeine is helpful for me too, I have been taking one dose every now and then when I really need to be moving.

My GP said he was referring me to the musculoskeletal clinic but the same GP forgot to sign my prescription so I’m going to call tomorrow to make sure the referral happened.

Have had more acupuncture but little results, but maybe you’re right and I need to continue to see the full benefit. I am still so grateful for that first appointment where he relieved the pain because since then it has been more manageable. It’s just these damned burning spasms when I walk! If they stopped I’d be happy to deal with the butt pain etc.

I hope your physio second opinion is fruitful :)

SpamChaudFroid · 08/06/2019 10:04

Thanks Decomposing, these GABA type drugs do make the pain so much more manageable.

Morning Eggbert ha yes, I've had it 4 months now . It's my physio who's asked for the second opinion, (from his colleague). I think then they'll advise my GP? It's all so shrouded in mystery isn't it though, no-one will give a straight answer.

I had a really good day yesterday though, I was practically tearing about and was hardly relying on the stick. I had taken paracetamol, they weren't dulling the pain so I took 60mg codeine. Bloody fantastic! Do you find your back gets tired very quickly because your posture's so different? I do.

How disappointing the acupuncture's not having the effect it was for you, perhaps there's a cumulative beneficial effect from the whole series of sessions? I hope you're whisked way for injections or something soon, surely a woman who is primary carer for 2 tiny children is given priority.

Anyway, here's a very apt, (yet possibly THE worst record of the Noughties) song just for us on our pain odyssey from singing christian Daniel Bedingfield.

Grin
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EggbertHeartsTina · 07/06/2019 15:55

I’ve just re-read your OP Spam - so it’s been three months already you poor thing. I hope they refer you for the MRI and then maybe next steps are the injections - my friend had these; she said it took three weeks but she was pain free after that and has been since (about four years ago).

EggbertHeartsTina · 07/06/2019 15:52

spam who is your second opinion with? The GP? I hope they send you for an MRI so you can see what’s going on. I’ve found my GPs and a&e don’t refer unless it’s been 3 months with no improvement, or you’ve lost bowel/bladder functions. You’ve had it a while though now right?

I actually looked into a private MRI - £350. A lot of money but was seriously considering it until I started feeling some improvements recently.

I definitely can’t stand long enough for the concert right now. But I think I’m going to have a few drinks and go for the beginning and see how I get on. I can always leave early if it’s too hard. A walking frame would probably help - or one of those sticks that turn into a stool, is that a thing?!

I had more acupuncture this morning. It was odd - during the session I felt that the pain had significantly reduced (he made me walk around the clinic mid-treatment) but when I left it was back. So frustrating!

I had sciatica in last week of pregnancy - looking back it was a mild episode, it was much more manageable than now! Then in labour I was pushing a long time, and after labour the sciatica was suddenly a lot worse. So the thinking is that I had a bulging disc and then maybe I made it worse when pushing. And I still have a lot of the relaxin hormone in my body which means my muscles won’t be as supportive for my back as usual. I keep being told “be patient, your body takes time to get back to normal.” But that’s no good when I have a baby to care for! DH goes back to work next week.

“Tiny” human is good thank you for asking Spam - but he’s not so tiny! He’s not even one month old yet and is already in 3 month clothing. He’s very long and he has a big head, which is possibly where my issues started!!!

SpamChaudFroid · 07/06/2019 08:47

Eggbert, I don't mean to be a killjoy, or god forbid, a fun sponge, but do you think you'll be physically able to stand for that long? Walking frame as a one off? (I'm actually not joking)

I'm really not sure about the codiene - I took 60mg yesterday and although they made me feel quite buzzed (which I really don't need) they didn't seem to make any difference to the pain. I'll try once more, but am thinking about binning those.

I have my second opinion this coming Tuesday, am hoping so hard they elect for me to have an MRI.

Forgive me if you already said Eggbert, but is the opinion that you injured your back during your recent childbirth? I do admire you for shambling along, babe in arms. How's the tiny human doing?

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EggbertHeartsTina · 06/06/2019 15:49

Nope Spam I was fit when I booked last year and so it’s standing room only - basically the mosh pit Confused not that I expect much moshing to spice girls!!

Yes I don’t think my TENS would help me now like it did at the beginning. Perhaps we will have the same journey with our pain and recover at the same time - hopefully very soon!!!

SpamChaudFroid · 06/06/2019 15:15

Your experience with your pain sounds so similar to mine Eggbert, I could have written your description. After moving about a lot, mine's settled in my leg, radiating from the outside of my knee, and it's like cramp that builds up and up the more I stand/walk on it. I can live with the jags of pain. Sadly a TENS machine feels just irritating on the calf. I'm doing the same with the codeine, none yesterday but I have a few things to do now which involve the use of my legs, so will take a couple. Please say it's a seated concert you're going to! Shock

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DecomposingComposers · 06/06/2019 14:37

I take pregabalin which is similar. It definitely helps but it never took the pain away completely. Maybe about a 50% reduction.

EggbertHeartsTina · 06/06/2019 14:31

Spam I know I was disappointed. However it is very relaxing which I think helps with my muscle spasms (particularly as I’m not taking the diazepam I’ve been prescribed due to breastfeeding).

My pain has changed a lot since the beginning of the sciatica. It’s now less like toothache and more like a burning sensation that builds up as I walk, eventually crescendo-ing to an unbearable level. It’s also moved down my leg, even my ankle hurts now (although that may be due to the way I’ve been walking). Although this burning pain is pretty bad, I do prefer it to the initial toothache-like nerve pain I started with. But ideally I’d like no pain! My biggest issue is the inability to walk. I’d put up with background pain if I could just walk through it, but I can’t.

I asked GP for Tramadol today as it’s ok to breastfeed on but he said no, I’m already on too much Sad he also wouldn’t let me increase my pregabalin.

I am back on naproxen now though. I think on days where I really need to move (e.g. Spice Girls concert!) I’ll take my codeine and give the baby formula for a day.

Hope everyone feeling ok today x

SpamChaudFroid · 06/06/2019 09:56

Oh no Eggbert, how disappointing! I was hoping you would be back-flipping your way home after last weeks results Sad. Did it kick in at all? Could still be helping with balancing, toxins etc.?

I do worry about the addictive nature of the drugs Stripey, and I have to be especially careful because I have a tendency to get addicted to substances, (my GP knows this). However the pain my back's giving me atm is more painful than any physical drug detox (including alcohol) so for me, it's worth it. I spent a lot of time thinking it through - my GP is willing to prescribe benzodiazepams for me, but I decided not to continue with those as I find them a little too more-ish .

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StripeyChina · 05/06/2019 19:39

I have taken all of these drugs over a 15 year period for bad pain which began with severe Symphysis pubis disorder which continued for years and was later joined by herniated discs as well as ongoing pelvic and leg pain. I've had a lot of foot surgery for compressed nerves too.

I have gradually weaned myself off the lot as i found side effects / dependence too horrible. I gained a huge amout of weight which it took me 3 years to shift (at least now the HCP's cant blame that!)

But i still have the same amount of pain joined now by really bad 'tailbone pain'. Does anyone else get this??

YesQueen · 05/06/2019 16:20

@daisypond I went off at the end of March, had surgery in May and returned end of July

Purpleneonpinkunicorns · 05/06/2019 16:06

My mum takes it for the same reasons sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't depend how much pain she's in at the time but good luck OP with getting the help and right meds.

EggbertHeartsTina · 05/06/2019 16:04

daisy I’m on maternity leave but I would have had to take at least three weeks off for this as that’s how long it took for me to be able to actually walk further than a few feet!

EggbertHeartsTina · 05/06/2019 16:02

Hi @PookieDo I’m definitely not trying to brave it out - I asked for the crutches as I thought they would help. However I can’t use them very much - I have a 3 week old baby, I can’t wear him in a carrier as that would exacerbate the back problem, so I need to push him in a buggy. I can’t do this and use crutches at the same time. I’ve been using the buggy as support when walking which does help.

I haven’t really been out without him yet but when I do I will not be afraid to use the crutches if they keep me upright.

I’m doing the exercises, seeing osteo and acupuncturist every week and I’m now able to more consistently walk upright so things are improving.

I am keeping as mobile as possible now I’m over the worst pain - in fact I’ve discovered cycling is relatively pain free.

daisypond · 05/06/2019 15:20

Home working isn’t allowed at my place of work so that’s a no-go. I use public transport to get to work, a mix of buses and trains and walking. I’m dreading it and not sure how possible it is going to be.

PookieDo · 05/06/2019 14:52

@EggbertHeartsTina

Why do you have crutches and not using them.... Why on earth??That is crazy
You are going to make it worse IMO and give yourself a lot more issues. Don’t try to brave it out, use them Confused

I was able to work because I used crutches, work helped make the environment suitable. I work in the NHS so it was more practical. If I couldn’t drive they let me work from home. I just tried everything but when it got too much I was signed off
But I used crutches all the time, did all the exercises (even if hurt), saw a physio every week, had acupuncture and moved around every hour (to help prevent DVT if nothing else)
You have to stay mobile

BogstandardBelle · 05/06/2019 14:48

@daisypond good question and one I was wondering too. I’m halfway through my second week, and signed off till the middle of next week - so that will be 2.5 weeks total. Whether I go back depends on what happens at my rheumatologist rdv next week.

But I only work part time - 16 hrs a week.

daisypond · 05/06/2019 13:06

Can I ask those of you who have a job, how much time, if any, have you had off sick with this? I’ve had two weeks off and I’m technically on leave now, but I don’t see how I can go back next week. My working day including commute is 12 hours long. I’m concerned what my work will say.

EggbertHeartsTina · 05/06/2019 12:56

Ah I see spam - I’m only on 150mg a day of pregabalin. My pain is now more of a burning than a stabbing. Still struggling to walk more than say 100 yards without sitting.

Just had second acupuncture session and this time the relief has not been as forthcoming, which is disappointing. Perhaps later. I am just sitting down after hobbling up and down the high street!

Am also finding myself getting into hunchback of ND pose as it’s more comfortable, but not good for my back obviously. I do have some crutches, perhaps I need to use one when walking longer distances.

I’m supposed to be seeing the Spice Girls on 15 June, I can’t imagine standing for that long!!!

SpamChaudFroid · 05/06/2019 09:42

Thanks Eggbert Smile I'm glad you're getting back on the happy train too. Pain just clouds everything and sucks the joy out of life, doesn't it? I'd just adopted a 4 month old puppy from Spain when the pain started. I felt awful for a while about his life not being as fun-filled as a puppy's life should be, and even considered re-homing. But friends and neighbours have helped with dog walking, plus his dog walker.

Sorry Eggbert, that was really unclear what I wrote about doses. I did mean gabapentin/pregabalin. Did you decide to keep taking naproxen? I have. My digestive system isn't too happy about that.

The walking funny - it's tiring as well isn't it? Because your body has to adapt to moving around bent into a different shape than it's used to. The muscles in my lower back get tired really fast, because they're so clenched up so hard to balance. The stick helps me stand straighter I think, I was creeping about like the hunchback of Notre Dame for ages until I got given the stick.

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EggbertHeartsTina · 04/06/2019 13:22

Ah un-mumsnetty hugs to you spam. I too am feeling happier day by day, I can’t believe how low I felt, and totally unable to comprehend that I would improve.

Just to clarify I don’t want to increase my dose of naproxen, I want to up my dose of pregabalin (similar to Gabapentin). I’m on a very low dose (75mg twice a day which I am reliably informed by google is incredibly low). Just called the doc but they have no phone consultations left today so I might have to wait 48 hours and be in pain today / tomorrow. However I have more acupuncture tomorrow so that will hopefully work miracles again!

Had osteo this morning and my posture, pelvis, sacrum etc. are all buggered - because I’ve been walking funny and compensating, and because of the labouring on my back in stirrups Angry. I think total recovery will be a while - and more ££££££ Sad

SpamChaudFroid · 04/06/2019 13:04

Yay Kitkat, there is hope here amongst the pain! In AIBU of all places!

I'm thinking it's because the naproxen is slow acting Eggbert, so you dont' get the short burst of pain relief like you get from other pain killers? And absolutely ask the GP to up your dose if you feel like you'd benefit from more. You're not on a particularly high dose are you? I'm on 900 for comparison.

I'm feeling so much better, still painful, but the old black dog was calling because the pain had got so unmanageable, (I was sobbing into my various pets fur nearly every day) but the depression I'd feared has got back into its box. I was beginning to feel very numb emotionally and apathetic. Not today, Satan! Grin

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