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Relative almost proud to "have to" claim benefits

138 replies

tellmeimbeingunreasonable · 10/07/2007 13:42

Ok, so please tell me i am being unreasonable if i am!
I have 6 children, relative has less.
I work part-time, dh 50hrs plus a week
She doesnt work through choice - her exh gives her money as and when she asks
I have one child who is disabled
She has 2 children who work full-time (others still at school)

Went to a party other day and I heard her saying without any apparent "I cant get a job as i would lose my benefits and be worse off".
This makes me so . I thought benefits were for those who cant work, not for those who wont work.
I heard a while ago that the government were going to bring in something that stops able to work parents of over 10 year olds from claiming benefits, but cant find any info about it now.
Has really made me annoyed this!
So AIBU?

OP posts:
bozzaNatasha · 10/07/2007 15:09

newlifenewname while I understand respect your argument about building your business up, networking in your own field etc I think the bit about the laundry pile is a bit lame. I manage to keep my laundry pile at bay and feed the children home made food (OK, frozen and reheated) whilst working 3 full days a week with a 6yo and 3yo and there are many more like me. A lunchtime supervisor is not there for the whole of the school day.

MadMumsy · 10/07/2007 15:00

Might be but if you show the same determination in your job interview, you won't be unemployed long, I am sure.

MadMumsy · 10/07/2007 14:59

Oh I do love a good conversation with someone who has got a bit of bite about them. I like it. Good luck with the job search - I am sure you will find something very soon.

newlifenewname · 10/07/2007 14:58

you could be right actually...

newlifenewname · 10/07/2007 14:55

arse fecks, No NO no not know hesus christo

newlifenewname · 10/07/2007 14:54

Know it is probably my propensity to tell people to Fuck off when they are being twattish.

MadMumsy · 10/07/2007 14:53

only joking - don't shoot me yet

MadMumsy · 10/07/2007 14:53

Perhaps that is why you aren't getting a job!!

newlifenewname · 10/07/2007 14:51

agh! 4th of 6 and ignore all other typos in that last post!

newlifenewname · 10/07/2007 14:50

The 'if you look ahrd enough' migth earn you a smack in the gob from some people. Me, actually if you'd said that the other night at around 3am when I was completed my 4th of 4 job applications with between 2 and 4 pages of info on 'me' related to job spec.

newlifenewname · 10/07/2007 14:48

It isn't as simple as some of you think. My reasons for not doing the midday supervisor post, for example, are that I need to be here in order to remain organised - I achieve a lot before the older dc arrive home and if I did the dinner lady job for peanuts I'd have, um, penauts and a laundry pile that takes over the house as well as dinner out of a tin for the children instead of home cooked food, and so on.

Also, while I accept that if you are poor you have to take whatever is on offer - I am educated to degree level and as such am working on building my business back up while networking and applying for jobs in my field. It doesn't make sense for me to go and run round the playground for a couple of hours when my time can be better spent on other things that will hopefull lead to a benefits free, and stress free future for us all. None of this applies perhaps to the person the OP is talking about but it maybe offers soem insight to just how complex one's reasons may be for not working.

meandmyflyingmachine · 10/07/2007 14:42

Term time only perhaps. Middle of the day only more tricky I should think.

And I suspect you would still have to claim quite a lot in the wayof benefits if you were a lunchtime supervisor.

I'm not saying people should stay on benefits rather than work. Not at all. But to suggest that all they have to do is get off their backside is a massive oversimplification IMO.

MadMumsy · 10/07/2007 14:38

Well I think the jobs are there is you look hard enough. OK it is hard if you are on your own but lunchtime supervisor at a school is a good start. I know that Boots used to employ term-time only staff also at one stage. Saturday work also is sometimes available. I also did a 'job share', I looked after my friends children when she worked and she looked after mine when I worked. It was very hard but we managed and had a laugh (and cried) together when we could.

newlifenewname · 10/07/2007 14:29

Well, yes, who knows re. her individual circumstances, but I did make the point that one is very fortunate to find a job that fits in with school hours. Of course they exist but not in great abundance.

I'm looking for work to support me re-start my own business after my relationship fell apart. I have 3 children, one at nursery til lunch and the other two at school until 3.10, and will really struggle to justify the forking out for childcare and the 'making life harder than it needs to be' for myself, but I'm a perfectionist, workaholic mad thing.

I'm not banking on a 9.45 til 2.45 post coming up and I won't be applying for the school midday supervisor post that is available. Make of that what you will.

meandmyflyingmachine · 10/07/2007 14:27

There aren't that many jobs with those hours though, are there?

I think it seems simple and easy, unless you are the one having to find the job...

tellmeimbeingunreasonable · 10/07/2007 14:15

She has between 9 am and 230 pm to work. Her kids wouldnt be latchkey kids and she doesnt have any pre schoolers. One of her dc said to her recently about her getting a job and she went mad at them ...maybe a guilty conscience was behind that Im not sure.

OP posts:
MadMumsy · 10/07/2007 14:09

That's fine meandmyflyingmachine, I know a few one parent families. I know how difficult it can be.

newlifenewname · 10/07/2007 14:07

I mostly think yanbu but inevitably, working involves having to arrange wraparound care for before and/or after school unless you are very lucky with your job. Not every parent of school age children wants them to be latch key kids.

meandmyflyingmachine · 10/07/2007 14:06

Sorry. It's just that this comment: "if anyone goes there and is found to be pregnant without husband/partner, they are deported immediately. Why should the country pay for their stupidity!! " rather made it sound as though you didn't...

tellmeimbeingunreasonable · 10/07/2007 14:06

harleyd - that's it exactly. Just because someone is entitled to it does that mean they should have it if there is an alternative?
Am sure with my situation we are entitled to a lot if we didnt work, but like most people we want to for lots of reasons.Fulfillment, example to dc, paying off debts etc

OP posts:
MadMumsy · 10/07/2007 14:05

Yes I do and I don't have a problem with that at all - in fact I take my hat off to them and in fact my son's girlfriend is one of them and she is a nurse doing shift work. She is a wonderful mother and works very hard and I don't have a problem with that at all. It is the ones to get pregnant to scrounge

kslatts · 10/07/2007 14:04

It annoys me that someone I know who is on benefits has more disposable income than dh and I even though we both work full-time, and the fact that because ahe is on benefits she gets lots of things free which we have to pay for.

meandmyflyingmachine · 10/07/2007 14:03

You do know that some single parents work and don't claim benefits, don't you?

MadMumsy · 10/07/2007 14:02

Too right - it isn't just pregnant women. There are so many claiming benefits and they are quite capable or working - just lazy b*tards

harleyd · 10/07/2007 14:01

never mind pregnant foreigners. why should people get away with sitting on their feckin lazy arses and claiming benefits when they are perfectly capable of working.

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