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To think that the police are useless?

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IdreamofClooney · 09/07/2007 12:47

Forgive my rant (please) but I am very cross!

My handbag was stolen on 4 April (from underm y feet in a quiet cafe) which was very upsetting for me, more so as I had photos of DS in there that are irreplaceable and not to mention the fact that I had £170 cash in my almost brand new radley (get me) purse.

Anyway, I duly reported this crime to the police. Nothing happened other than a PC phoning me to tell me that he wasn;t going to give me a lecture on being careful with my stuff, but to be more carefull with my stuff (which went down well).

A couple of weeks later I got my mobile bill showing over £20 of calls made by said handbag theif.

In Nancy Drew (or perhaps Miss Marple) mode I hurried to the police station with my evidence.

I have now made THREE complaints as the police have done BA about it.

I got a calling card from the officer "investigating" my crime at the weekend and after numnerous calls from me he called me back at 8.30 this morning (yes very handy but I digress)

He asked me to bring antoerh copy of my phone bill to the station as he had not recived the first one I dropped off over two months ago. HE gave me all kinds of excuses, including the fact that he had been to busy catching terrorists to chase up my crime.

Now I am as frightened by terrorist attacks as the next woman but I fail to see how a terrorist attack in GLASGOW in JULY can prevent a police officer in EDINBURGH investigating a crime that took place in APRIL.

As far as I am concerned perhaps I should give up my stressful and low paid job and become a handbag theif as apparently that it cool - the police do not care.

Am I being unreasonable ?

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unknownrebelbang · 09/07/2007 21:11

Well, it's preferable not to be the victim of any crime, lol.

We did get my car broken into once on the drive, and before DH reported it we got two of the local coppers knocking on the door asking if we'd had the car broken into. Apparently, someone had been picked up for screwing cars on the estate and he admitted to doing several (all the same make).

meandmyflyingmachine · 09/07/2007 18:22

You want to have any crimes happen on Network Rail property. Then you get the Transport police on the case.

My car window was smashed and radio stolen. I phoned the police and they basically said "oh..and...". But once they realised it had happened in a Station Car park, they put me on to the Transport Police who sent a scene of crime officer out from York to Bradford to fingerprint the car. They then sent me update letters every month for a year. Sadly, the fingerprints did not match any on their database, no witnesses, no suspects.

But still...

unknownrebelbang · 09/07/2007 18:16

(and I was gutted at losing the camera).

unknownrebelbang · 09/07/2007 18:14

YABU, but I do sympathise.

I had my bag nicked at the supermarket a couple of years ago.

It had a fair amount of cash in, my mobile, camera with pics of DS3's first proper birthday party with friends, etc etc etc.

The police did sweet FA, other than take a statement. And unfortunately, I expected little else.

The harsh reality is that the vast majority of this low-level crime (and I know it's not low-level to you) goes uninvestigated, usually down to the sheer volume, or the cursed targets (which is why you do see some really silly arrests etc).

Current hot potato is Domestic Violence, which can only be a good thing. Plus a lot of time and resources are being put into racial matters, to say nothing of terrorism. Obviously this takes resources away from basic policing.

DH is a copper, and I know that he runs from *rsehole to breakfast time dealing with allsorts most days. As a sgt he does do his best to get the PCs to follow stuff up, but it is difficult.

Lucky for the CID DH who spends time in the canteen, DH often comes home having not had time for a break.

I know of no bounty payments though??

IdreamofClooney · 09/07/2007 16:28

I agree completely Jeremy, its not the £170 I got for my pram that was in my purse (though that is upsetting as I was so thrilled when I sold my pram!) it is the photos of DS on my phone - a lovely one of him sleeping in said pram, all my numbers, my diary with everyone's birthday etc and stupid things like my boots advantage card, cafe loyalty card (so close to that free cup of coffee) and money off coupons

I was so hoping that my bag would be found in a bin - I actually raked through a few bins in the locale...... as I would so love to have my stuff back

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Manictigger · 09/07/2007 16:28

No Idream, I'd feel exactly the same as you. I'm getting fed up with all the resources being devoted to fighting terrorism whilst other 'every day crime' is essentially being ignored by the police. Statistically I'm sure we're all far more likely to be robbed or stabbed than injured in a terrorist attack but what do the government care? I reckon in their eyes a terrorist attack makes them look weak and vulnerable to the rest of the world so they feel they must concentrate resources on dealing with that, whereas you or I would probably prefer that they changed their priorities. Judging by the number of people I know who don't bother reporting incidents, I think a lot of people think the police are fairly useless when it comes to solving crime.

IdreamofClooney · 09/07/2007 16:25

I called the mobile phone company as soon as I could - I didn;t have their number on me and had no keys to get into my flat so took about an hour and by that time the theif had made all of the calls. Virgin tried to make me pay and I had to complain in writing to get them to reimbursse me even though it was obvious I didn't make the calls - there were 10 calls to Morrocco and I had never called there before etc.

I had hoped as I gave the police the phone bill immediately that they would follow up but as they are claiming they do not have it (I physically handed it to an officer at the station - he gave DS who had chicken pox a chocolate I remember it well) then I agree that 3 months later is pointless.

Just seems so wrong to me that criminals get away with it all the time and "law abiding citizens" get no support or assistance for their trouble. I think if the police had made it clear at the outset that they were not able to investigate my crime i woudl have accepted it but three months on and this is upsetting!

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JeremyVile · 09/07/2007 16:20

Its funny though (in a completely unfunny way), we don't realise until it happens how upsetting it can be to have personal effects stolen, the injustice of it is infuriating.

All i ever had stolen was a mobile phone, but i had pictures on there that really meant something to me, it made me sick to think of the person who stole the phone, wiping them off as if they were nothing.

Bloody B'stards

Skribble · 09/07/2007 16:20

blah blah blah

DominiConnor · 09/07/2007 16:19

It's evidence of something, certainly.
But the people who were called, weren't the criminals, but still might not be too cooperative.
Even if they were, I couldn't tell you with great accuracy who called me last week, let alone two months ago.

The police, not unreasonably try to make some sort of trade off between the seriousness of the crime, and the chances of a conviction.

To track down everyone rung by a stolen phone and try and persuade them to remember who rung is a lot of work, and my (amateur) judgement puts the chances of any sort of conviction being low.

As for the 16 yo vandals, I bet they will give each other alibis, and others will too. Also the police have learned that the courts simply won't do very much to them, especially if they're white, or worse come from "nice families".
That's not good, but again not the police fault.
Sadly, unless you are much better at this than me, I might doubt they are 16 yos. They could be anything from 14 to 20. If they're 14, and this is "minor" vandalism, literally man-weeks of police time will be sucked up for a 30 quid fine and a warning that if they do it again, the authorities will be quite disappointed with them.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 09/07/2007 16:15

Am very sorry that your possessions were stolen in such a manner. This is why some restaurants actually have anti theft handbag clips under the table for people to hang their bags on.

You did the right thing by reporting the theft but realistically there's not much else you can do apart from ensuring that all credit/debit cards, driving licence (if that was in there as well) are stopped asap and reissued.

Did you call the mobile phone company asap post theft?. It seems like you did not get the phone stopped hence the £20.00 worth of calls. Will you be liable for this charge?.

IdreamofClooney · 09/07/2007 16:14

Thanks Jeremy I appreciate your input

I clearly have no idea how things work as I really thought that the phone bill was evidence

Oh well I apologise for getting my knickers in a twist when there is nothing the police can do for me

Just seems so unjust somehow but I suppose as my Dad alwasy told me "Life isn;t fair you know"

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bagsundereyes · 09/07/2007 16:13

DH is in CID and a right waste of space IMO. And he's about the smartest person in his office.

"busy investigating terrorism"

in the canteen, or playing darts.

Although maybe that's just his office....

Not aware of these bounty payments though - which forces get those?

JeremyVile · 09/07/2007 16:11

Not sure what i would expect tbh, i dont imagine there is that much they can do. At least not within the boundaries of their resources.

I would imagine that a stolen handbag/mobile would only be solved if there was some kind of supportive evidence such as CCTV footage (and even then the police would have to recognise the thief by sight), eyewitness who recognised the thief, the discarded bag turning up and having some kind of trace that correlated to something the police had on file or the theif being arrested on another matter and the police finding your property on him or in his home?

Cant see what you expect them to do pro-actively.

IdreamofClooney · 09/07/2007 16:01

Ok Ok

I agree that I am overstating and that the police are not indeed useless.

Please could any of the people who laughed at my indignation explain what you would expect the police to do if your handbag was stolen?

Obviously I am niave in thinking that the phone bill was evidence so clearly I need to watch more cop shows

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IdreamofClooney · 09/07/2007 13:02

skving on mumsnet for three months?

I suppose that nothing will get my bag back or stop crime so why bother?

oh am just in a bad mood with everyone

I need to go and get on with my work instead of moaning.

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slug · 09/07/2007 13:01

It's the insensitivity of them that gets me. After I rang to report the third time my car's back window had been broken in the space of a month, the copper on the phone sympathised by suggesting that I should move house to avoid the vandals. Err.... no, maybe you should come and have a word with the two 16 year old boys who have been identified by me, my neighbours, passers by etc of smashing the windows.

Speccy · 09/07/2007 13:00

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IdreamofClooney · 09/07/2007 13:00

I would like to police to act like it mattered that someone stole my bag and that the person who stole my bag is in fact a criminal and I am actually a law abiding citizen.

At the moment I feel that the criminal gets the best deal and I have to lump it.

My bag had everything in it I had no end of hassle getting everything replaced, locks changes etc etc and have lost some stuff forever.

Even if the police had just phoned me once off their own back and said (we are sorry about the crime, but there is no way we wil catch them end of) that would be better than nothing!

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JeremyVile · 09/07/2007 12:59

Well perhaps the police were busy skiving on MumsNet....there you go...case closed, by you're own standards YABU

tiredemma · 09/07/2007 12:57

In the grand scheme of things Im sure that they are not useless, I can see why you would be slightly rattled however.

Police have a really tough job.

IdreamofClooney · 09/07/2007 12:56

Sorry the mobile phone bill had all of the numbers on it that the theif called (presumabley to tell all of their mates that they had just scored a bag with lots of stuff in it)

In my opinion the fact that the theif used the phone indicates that they know the police won;t bother to chase them up.

I am not suprised by the lack of motivation if no bonus involved. Is so frustrating - I don;t get bonus payments but I get on with my job to the best I can (apart from when I am skiving on mumsnet) and if I was expecting someone to drop me a document that didnp;t turn up I would chase it up - not wait two months and three complaints before I got of my arse!

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ruddynorah · 09/07/2007 12:56

oh lol, yes of course. hello it's the police who rang you at 2.45 yesterday afternoon please?

ruddynorah · 09/07/2007 12:55

eh?! what do you want the police to do exactly?

mummyhill · 09/07/2007 12:55

Custy - with a mobile bill they can see what numbers were called and maybe able to track the thief via their contacts.