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... to think that Live Earth is a stupid and hypocritical idea?

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Ponka · 07/07/2007 21:31

I've not heard of it until I've just switched the TV on tonight.

So, to raise awareness about each individual caring for the environment and to remind us that it's the little things that count (switching off lights, making less journeys etc.) they decide to put on a massive worldwide concert, with an incredible amount of electric equipment and lighting. They get thousands and thousands of people to travel to these concerts, all the bands, all their equipment needs to be moved to the concerts.

It just doesn't make sense.

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notapushy1 · 10/07/2007 21:39

AFAIK she's already released the single sans children's choir, but who knows?, Madonna could decide to do a remix or re-release! We had to sign all sorts of forms to allow them to reuse the Live Earth recordingsin other formats /contexts.

southeastastra · 10/07/2007 21:30

is that her new single nap1 (ha) will they have lots more personal appearances

notapushy1 · 10/07/2007 21:29

Talking as a Mum rather than an environmentalist I have
to confess that I enjoyed every second of Madonna's HEY YOU performance- because my DD was singing in the choir accompanying her! She had the most thrilling time @ rehearsals, meeting Madonna and then being on stage in front of 1000s and her excitement was something we'll never forget . Incidentally they took a coach to the Stadium rather than going separately in parents' cars...

Rachmumoftwo · 10/07/2007 21:05

And then there are all the televisions being used to watch it, the cars used to get there etc. Celebs- bloody hypocrites the lot of them. Saving the planet, or self-promotion?

Ponka · 10/07/2007 20:05

Some facts I have found.

Live Earth's Carbon footprint was equivalent to 74,500 tons of CO2.
Madonna, who headlined at Wembley, personally has a carbon footprint of 1,018 tons CO2; 92 times the average of 11 tons per year.
Stage lighting at Wembley alone used the same electricity as 10 houses (unless they actually did go with the hamsters).
It has been estimated that to transport the artists to all the events, they would between them fly the equivalent of nearly a quarter of a million miles (222,500m) - nine times the circumference of the planet.

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southeastastra · 10/07/2007 10:27

it's good to see live music on tv though, live concerts seem to have been completely missed out of the schedule for a while now.

couldn't work out why they cut out some acts, like the beastie boys. foo fighters could have played for longer as well.

david baddiel having a go was quite entertaining.

yellowpoo · 10/07/2007 10:13

No it will not make a difference. Just like bacteria in a petri dish, we will use up all the resources of the world and die in our own waste ans excerement. Too many selfish humans to even reach through music concerts preaching a greener way.

Backtobasics · 09/07/2007 22:03

I am a Madonna fan but i did not like her peromance one bit. I think she has lost the plot. Where did she drag those two men playing the violin from? The F you was unnessisary and tacky, i think it was another one of her 'shock' factors, can Madonna really shock us anymore

Then there was her singing 'Hung Up', do we really need to see a 48yr old woman rubbing up against 20 something yr old lads? Or her being suggestive with a giant beat box thingy? I think not.

Then there is her saying 'it's about time we woke up and starting saving the planet,' then you look at her life style with endless jets and fancy cars and think, is this really a woman who we are going to stand up and lisen to about saving the planet?

Desiderata · 09/07/2007 22:03

And Bono is a twat.

policywonk · 09/07/2007 21:55

Sanctimonious Pop Twonks is a great name for a band.

Rachmumoftwo · 09/07/2007 21:48

Madonna really annoyed me, but then she always does. Why feel the need to swear like that? She's a mum, she was dressed like a mum, she was meant to be supporting a good cause, and then she opened her stupid mouth and spoiled it. It was completely tacky and unnecessary, and made her look even more of a twt than she normally does. And I think her kids book is shte! Can you tell I'm not a fan?

Desiderata · 09/07/2007 20:01

great rant, mamamoor

I agree entirely.

Mamamoor · 09/07/2007 20:00

I couldn't watch it cos it made me so mad - DH had to drag me from the room!. SueBaroo has hit the nail on the head for me. I am totally amased that supposed intelligent people would think that staging something on a worldwide scale with all the unecological issues involved would be a good idea!!! Was the lighting energy saving, was the transport powered by love and good intentions alone, was the food packaging and other admin biodegradable - probably not!? Usual dim witted self obsessed luvvie rule of prance about and sing at something and people will give you money (to stop IMO)and it will all be OK again!!!! Rant, rant!!!

LordPan · 09/07/2007 19:33

So, we're all agreed then.

LoveAngel · 09/07/2007 17:56

These things make me puke, to be honest. Anything involving Madonna is especially annoying. I've gone right off her.

SueBaroo · 09/07/2007 17:04

Publicising what, though? Change your lightbulbs, plebs. Use the bus, unworthy ones.

Kiss my fat furry arse, sanctimonious pop-twonks.

Tortington · 09/07/2007 14:39

it came to me - i bought lovely 4x4

casbie · 09/07/2007 13:37

where did all the profit go?

lljkk · 09/07/2007 10:04

But people are going to attend live concerts and pay lots of money to see Flavour-of-the-Year PopStar (etc.), anyway. Usually these events happen just so somebody else can make money. Big Rockstars jet around to attend their gigs normally. At least these events are publicising a good cause at the same time.

(And no, I didn't watch it and don't even know or care who appeared).

LambethLil · 09/07/2007 09:55

I looked carefully to see whether it was converted- having taken the trouble to advertise the fact it what a courtesy car for a consciousness raising event for the environment, the organisers really weren't doing their job if they forgot to advertise that too.......unless it was "good ole fossil fuel".

speedymama · 09/07/2007 09:53

Popstars who fly around the world and drive huge 4x4 in urban areas who preach to the rest of us but do little to change their lifestyle - in that respect, YANBU.

Raising the profile about climate change is a good thing (not that it needs it imo) but I would have liked to have seen more emphasis on sustainability because imho, that is the underlying issue we should be focussed on. In that respect, YABU.

I can't believe I am going to say this but I thought the Pussycat Dolls were brilliant! I thought they were a typical brainless girl group like Spice Girls or Girls Aloud who can't sing, dance or have opinions worth listening to. They could sing, dance and had something to say when interviewed by Wossie boy. They are very talented unlike the girl groups in this country (Sugababes maybe an exception).

Madonna was fabulous and in such good shape. I think her singing lessons are paying off because her voice is much stronger and more in tune than when she first started.

The Foo Fighters rocked!

Also, How good was that actress Colette something in Australia? She sang "Children of the Revolution" and she belted it out. Her voice was so strong. Compare her voice to that over-hyped Rhianna whose tinny voice was drowned out by her backing singers singing on quarter throttle.

LordPan · 09/07/2007 09:41

"stuck behind a great big Mercedes car,that was running on bio fuel, whilst we were burning good ole fossil fuel.." ??????

LambethLil · 09/07/2007 09:22

That should read Live EARTH of course.

LambethLil · 09/07/2007 09:20

Crappy half baked hypocrytical idea. All my prejudices were reaffirmed yesterday when we were stuck behind a great big Mercedes car emblazoned with Live8 Courtesy Shuttle.

Whole thing is ridiculous.

LordPan · 09/07/2007 06:14

and it appears to me as a genuine attempt to point up the difference between what we know is acutally wrong, and what we are prepared to do about it. I agree, there is alot of stuff around, but we are still ignorant, generally, of how bad the sitation is, and how to reduce our own contribution to greenhouse gases.

For some detractors, their reaction is based in "stop making me feel guilty, I don't know what else I can do as my bit", or for others it will be " oh fark awf, I couldn't be arsed changing - I don't look past tomorrow if it is inconvenient to, you bunch of liberally flower-power types." IMVHO.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not an eco-warrior, but do now bike to work when I can (alternate days), never repeat boil, or needlessly boil, a kettle, am prudent with central heating usage, and went on holiday last by train, rather than flew. I know I have slashed my own carbon footprint massively in the last two years or so. And I do see others who can do similar but choose not to. Promotion by concert may help change minds rather than others, like me, getting all pointy-fingered.

I guess also it's an attempt to make being careful about the planet "sexy". There is nothing sexy about low-wattage bulbs, but there are other ways of managing yourself without damaging the environment where we all live. A concert provides an opportunity for politicos to reach a wider, younger audience.

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