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To worry that DS 13mo may have ASD or something else?

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Februaryblooms · 17/02/2019 21:26

DS is 13 months, I know that's still extremely young but I can't shake the feeling that something is a bit different about him. My worries are compounded by DP's older child having been confirmed as ASD and DP is most definitely on the spectrum albeit undiagnosed.

DS doesn't respond to his name being called, even if I get down to his height and say his name repeatedly he'll look straight past me and won't make eye contact, just try to squirm away. He's obsessed with the wheels on his toy cars and will sit spinning them for ages but doesn't actually play with them. He doesn't wave and doesn't clap, he doesn't point. He's not very affectionate and hates being held and cuddled. He never sits still to interact with us, he just wants to be left to his own devices.

His hearing is fine by the way, there doesn't appear to be anything wrong with his hearing at all. If he hears a theme tune from the other room he'll come straight in and go to the tv.

He hasn't started talking yet, the only 'words' he says is "mmmummum" but only the noise, he doesn't associate it to me. He did say "dadadadad" for a week or so but hasn't since.

Some reaasuring signs would be that he likes playing boo when he's in the mood, and laughs and runs when me and DP pretend to hide and chase him. He's walking well, feeding himself well, sleeping well.

I spend hours every day trying to interact with him and teach him words, objects etc but he has absolutely no interest in me at all Sad

AIBU to be worrying about this so early on?

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JustDanceAddict · 18/02/2019 13:20

Agree with others he sounds like he could have ASD. It’s good you’re looking into interventions and diagnosis now so you’re ready when he’s old enough to be diagnosed. The lack of interaction is a big sign, but speech not so much (DS did not speak until 15 months).

AllPizzasGreatAndSmall · 18/02/2019 13:19

at this stage it's more about missing milestones!

Do you mean physical milestones? My son did everything on schedule, or early -smiling, rolling, crawling, walking etc.

PenguinPandas · 18/02/2019 13:15

I have a 12 year old with suspected ASD and was expecting to say its too early to tell but those do sound like early indicators.

My DS is the loveliest little boy I could have wished for, he is blissfully happy at home in his own world but hates school. School has been a challenge - he hasn't got a diagnosis so in earlier years we had teachers argue it was bad behaviour. An Ed Psych disagreed with them and as he has got older its so obvious he's ASD no teacher now longer questions it - took 15 teddies to school each day at 10 who he would arrange each day, dancing at his favourite number etc though I did get a call from Head the other day saying he's barking like a dog as distressed hands over his ears is that an asd thing or just behaviour?

They can be very happy - he also has good friends but is very cautious about making them but they are really lovely. He does always have identical categories of friends and tells me he seeks identical friends, often gentle intelligent Asian boys and quiet girls. Think some of louder kids do tease him though school are good at dealing with it, only serious case we've had, other boy disappeared permanently. Mine was an obsessive cuddler but they tend to go either way.

thinking54 · 18/02/2019 13:02

My story is sort of a positive one I feel. At the age of 3, I was told he would never be able to. Talk, read or write. Would have to go to a special needs school etc etc

He's almost 10 now. His speech is fine. He does struggle to communicate but that's because he doesn't understand emotion very well. His speech and language therapist sees him maybe every 6 months now.

He can read. He can write. His hand writing is lovely. His drawings are AMAZING.

He goes to a mainstream primary. He has special 1:1 help and if working at a lower level to the other kids in his class but he in no way needs to be in a special needs school. Secondary school is a different matter, it's my next hurdle with him. But we will be fine.

He was diagnosed aged 5. He's just got there in his own time in all honesty.

My advice to anyone who thinks they may have an asd child is don't push them. They do everything in their own time. My son just learnt to ride a bike a few months ago. Yes it's a lot later than the majority of kids but who cares? He can do it now! And I couldn't be prouder.

I honestly used to drive myself mad with trying to get my son to do stuff. All those things I used to spend hours and hours trying to get him to do, he did eventually.

I'd definitely recommend the drop in if you can find one, they are usually very informal, no appointment needed etc etc.

Also I'd try the tv thing. You mention your son struggles to look at you. My son used to be the same. However the tv he sat and watched no problem. He could learn words by not really having any communication with me - if you get me, like looking at the tv and just listening to my voice. I used baby tv on sky. They say too much tv is bad but it's tv that taught my son to speak!

I totally understand what you mean about him talking in full sentences. That's all I wanted my son to do. Even if he does have a delay in getting there, he will still communicate with you in his own way and you will be able to communication back with him. Honestly your bond with him will end up being closer than you ever thought it could be

HalfBloodPrincess · 18/02/2019 13:01

I think the best thing to do is to try and see the Portage team that a pp mentioned. I think you can self refer. We’ve had a few appointments and they do some of the legwork for you ie chasing up appointments, referrals etc. I can’t fault them.

Just want to mention that my HV has been bloody brilliant. It’s unfair to tar them all based on some people’s experiences (my HV with my older child wasn’t that good so I know it’s swings and roundabouts) but I would make them your first point of call

notapizzaeater · 18/02/2019 12:59

Find out if you've a local support group as well. My ds was diagnosed at 9 after me rattling doors for years. He's now getting ready for his GCSEs this summer and a delightful chappy most of the time.

Februaryblooms · 18/02/2019 12:50

A quick search online has brought up a specialist NHS children's centre close by who specialise in things such as ASD assessments and SALT.

I've tried calling but no answer as of yet so perhaps the receptionist is on a lunch break or they're busy.

I need to pop out to do some shopping so I may drop in and have a quick chat with somebody to see whether they think they'll be able to help or advise.

They do lots of things such as SALT, play therapy, groups, advice for parents etc.

I think this would be a good avenue to try?

To worry that DS 13mo may have ASD or something else?
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Februaryblooms · 18/02/2019 12:40

@thinking54 he loves the TV, it's always on as background noise when I'm at home (I know that's probably not the best though!)

I'd be interested in finding a drop in speech and language clinic that I could take him to. I'll have to do some research and see whether there's anything like that near me, it sounds like it would be good for him either way.

How is your little boys speech now? Did he catch up after you sought help and got a diagnosis?

What saddens me more than anything about an ASD diagnosis is the possibility that he may never talk (or talk in full sentences) so I may not get to experience the joy of having little conversations with him, I've been looking forward to that since the day I found out I was expecting him.

I mustn't get ahead of myself though (I keep telling myself that) Blush

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thinking54 · 18/02/2019 12:36

Should also mention we got a speech therapist too from this drop in clinic. I'd really advise you to have a look and see if there is anything similar in your area.

thinking54 · 18/02/2019 12:34

I was you 9 years ago. In my case, yes my son is autistic. I knew from a baby. He was diagnosed aged 5.

Health visitor was convinced he was fine. Took him to the gp who was also convinced he was fine however did refer us to a paediatrician. The wait was 8 months.

Where I finally got the ball rolling was actually going to a drop in speech and language clinic at my local community centre. From a quick chat with a therapist, we were immediately given a hearing test and referred to portage which was amazing. He was 2 when we got this.

I haven't read all the comments and I'm in no way saying your son does have asd. I just thought I'd share my experience. I have had 2 children since. My daughter is non asd. My 6 month old....I'm constantly looking for signs.

Also, does he like to watch tv? I taught my son to say words through the tv. Sounds daft but it worked. Basically we would sit and watch it, when something came on the tv (cat, dog, car, train etc etc etc) I would pause the tv and say the word.....and gradually he began to try say the words.

Good luck op x

Februaryblooms · 18/02/2019 12:30

@buttertoff33 I assumed the GP would signpost me back to the health visitors to be honest, if that's not the case then I'm more than happy to go down the GP route. Whatever helps

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buttertoff33 · 18/02/2019 12:18

actually, I would run this via the GP. In my experience, HVs have very little to no understanding of this kind of atypical development. HVs failed us terribly and I know of many families with very similar experience. Call HV for weaning advice but with this kind of issue, I would make an appointment to see the GP.

anniehm · 18/02/2019 11:55

Could be, but also may not - too early to diagnose. But we did see differences from birth looking back, and the lack of words was noted at clinic visit for 15 month vaccinations when we later looked through her records. We went back at 2 and had various testing and an early intervention programme from 2.5, being diagnosed at 2 3/4.

Februaryblooms · 18/02/2019 11:52

Really appreciate all of your replies and suggestions. I've been worrying alot and it's very helpful to hear from others who have had the same concerns, whether they turned out to be ASD or not

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Februaryblooms · 18/02/2019 11:49

I've just called the health visiting team and left a message for our named health visitor, asking her to contact me as I'd like to have a chat about a few concerns I have with DS's social development.

Hopefully I get a call back relatively soon and can get the ball rolling.

I've had a chat online with an old friend of mine who's son is ASD and the severe end of the spectrum. He is completely non verbal like a PP mentioned here about her boy. I told her the red flags and she said he sounds exactly like he did at an early age.

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raffle · 18/02/2019 11:19

He’s 10 now, and does come for a cuddle now. It’s a brief, stiff kind of ‘bloke hug’ but I’ll take that! Grin

raffle · 18/02/2019 11:17

When DS was that age he had no interest in cuddles. I remember being so sad about it. I developed a little trick....I sat in front of the washing machine when it was on (effectively blocking his view) then I used to hold him in front of me with his head looking over my shoulder so he could see. If I was lucky he would relax into me with his head on my shoulder. A cuddle! Sort of!

HalfBloodPrincess · 18/02/2019 11:16

It’s a schedule of growing skills assessment. They should do one between 12-18 months depending on when the developmental check is. If your child scores less than his age in 2 or more categories then it’s normally indicative that further helpnis needed.

Sorry to say it but it truly is a battle. My advice is trust your instincts and push for every assessment and help you can think of.
We’re only at the start so I can’t really advise much on the process but it’s something you have to fight for if you believe there’s cause for concern.

Februaryblooms · 18/02/2019 10:58

@HalfBloodPrincess nope I haven't had a SOGS, what is that please? The only thing he's had is a generic check list type 'review' when the HV visited last. It was before he started walking and he was walking by 11 months. She said he seemed to be doing good with everything except social development but I haven't heard from her since.

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HalfBloodPrincess · 18/02/2019 10:19

In your initial post you could be describing my ds. He’s 20 months now but at 15 I contacted the HV as I was worried. Luckily they’ve taken me seriously despite his age and we have lots lined up to get the ball rolling.

Have you had a SOGS test done? I’d be asking for an assessment from the hv asap. If if does turn out your ds has additional needs then early intervention is key.

Februaryblooms · 18/02/2019 10:10

I've read about it so much I've found myself purposely looking for more signs which I know I shouldn't be doing. I need to give my self a good talking to and stop that as it's not fair on poor DS really.

He's a touch whingey this morning and he's going around making 'grunting' noises, the sort of sounds you hear when people are playing tennis Grin

Prior to DS I have no experience of babies so very little experience as to what's normal and what's not. I'm a natural born worrier unfortunately which only compounds how I feel when I get a feeling something is a bit off.

I agree I need to relax and enjoy him without stressing about what may or may not be.

I think I'll give the HV a call today just to raise the matter then try to put it out of my mind

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ThreeAnkleBiters · 18/02/2019 09:46

I agree that while you can't tell definitely he does sound like he might be on the spectrum, especially with the family history. I'd definitely get advice from an autism charity before you know for sure.

Sockmonster23 · 18/02/2019 09:42

My son was like this. It was a few years ago. He did not talk either. His speech was very slow. would say the same words. Didn't point or clap. So many things and my daughter had meltdowns for socks and anything sensory until she was around 6 at least. She had red flags well in today's society more so as back then ASD wasn't as well known. Today they are both doing fine and expert's in their line of work. They have friends and my son had a partner. My daughter is enjoying travelling around working and nothing fazes her now. It was just stages of childhood for them anyway. I'm not saying there isn't anything but please please don't worry too much. Health visitor will probably say too young. My son at school came in leaps and bounds and no one could believe the change in. He never looked anyone one in eye that pre school said they still had to wait and see. He came Into his own. They will not diagnose that young for many reasons and it's a good thing as I do think today people so badly want to put labels on different stages and transition of childhood. There is a great read on the professionals take a long time to diagnose. The human mind and body changes so much during the early years. Speak to HV by all means but I will say from years and years of experience of mine and others it's not unusual.

yourfeetstink · 18/02/2019 09:34

I could have written your post.
Go with your gut and flag it with the health visitor.
Early intervention is critical and if a child gets the right support from an early age, they have a higher chance of having less hurdles in later life

BlackeyedGruesome · 18/02/2019 09:30

Ds was obsessed with wheels as well, played with the wheels of his toys. Did not ask to be picked up or point to show interest, or wave goodbye. He also spent ages standing waving objects backwards and forwards in a very deliberate manner. These were all things that were early markers for autism.

He used to rock himself in the car seat and was obsessed with the washing machine. Ds did not meet the 50 words by 2 milestone. He was exceptionally good physically.

DD did not wave, or point, or ask to be picked up either. She did not talk a lot until just before two.

Ds was diagnosed at age 4, I delayed going to the GP in case they said it was terrible twos.it took just understand year.

DD did not get diagnosed until age 12. She masked better. Go and raise it with your GP and take a list of your concerns.

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