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In being sick of the way women are endlessly objectfied and treated like pieces of meat?

184 replies

Janos · 02/07/2007 20:42

Rant alert!

I'm just so f'ing sick of it (pardon my French).

It's everywhere, on television, when you walk into the newsagents, advertising billboards, shops - AAARGHH!!

I don't remember it being like this when I was younger. Perhaps I was just more innocent then or maybe its got worse. Depressing to think what view of women this encourages, and that my DS will grow up seeing this stuff as a matter of course.

sigh

Am I just a raddled old prude or what?

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amen · 04/07/2007 14:12

"so amen you are perfectly happy with the treatment of woman in the media & society?"

i can't speak for the whole world as there may well be exploitations outside of my scope but within mainstream uk& irish media i would say yes. if i don't approve of an ad campaign or media outlet i vote with my feet by not purchasing said products/readin or watching the output. none of the models are forced into the lifestyle instead they aspire to it. for me it is simply capatilism and democracy in action both of which i support so it would be slightly hypocritical of me to condemn their results.

Rhubarb · 04/07/2007 14:11

dunno

Tortington · 04/07/2007 14:11

why are youcross.?

SueBaroo · 04/07/2007 14:08

amen - David tennant = Doctor Who.

And I don't objectify him. I love him for his mind and sharp wit...

chevre · 04/07/2007 14:08

so amen you are perfectly happy with the treatment of woman in the media & society?

Rhubarb · 04/07/2007 14:07

Hey Custy - I'm officially "cross" today! Want to join me?

Rhubarb · 04/07/2007 14:07

I've shagged Doctor Who.

Tortington · 04/07/2007 14:07

you bunch of old wrinkled prudes you wih yer " it wasn;t like that in my day" rose tinted glasses

wat the fuckare you on - rmember sam fox

the dancers on top of the pops

women have always got their bits out in th media - it hasnt got worse recently

now - i dont mind a bit of objectifying. i dont want to be no objectified.

if i was wearing a specially designed dress for wimbledn - in line with many other high rofile players - i would quite like people to take an interest. especially as womesn tennis is fucking dull - it muh depends on whetherthe other player has muscles to rival any man - so ey can win the serve - the point - and there is no game to watch just two women one hits he ball - one in't strong enough to hit it back. the ugliest one who looks lie a man wins.

amen · 04/07/2007 14:06

"falls flat on her arse because she has made numerous comments about David Tennant"

who's david tennant?
and good on you for admitting your sexualisation of another human being. i mean ffs we all do it.

amen · 04/07/2007 14:04

not particularly.just another thread from this site with women drooling over daniel craig and what a hunk he is.i have no problem with it, just noticed that none of the women on here complaining about women being treated like sexual objects rushed to defend him and pour scorn on those who were talking about this human being in a purely phhysical manner.

Rhubarb · 04/07/2007 14:04

About him being a ginner?

SueBaroo · 04/07/2007 14:04

It's the Daniel Craig discussion

Rhubarb · 04/07/2007 14:01

Is it funny?

amen · 04/07/2007 14:00

don't know how to link on this site sorry.just try a copy and paste

Rhubarb · 04/07/2007 13:55

Can you link that? I can't be arsed typing it in my address bar.

amen · 04/07/2007 13:54

www.mumsnet.com/Talk?topicid=2724&threadid=348161&stamp=070702121347

i hope none of you posted on this thread.could be a long fall from your high horses.

lazyemma · 04/07/2007 12:24

I wouldn't - if it's anything like her post, it's essentially a shameless rehash of other people's (Susan Faludi, Imelda Whelehan) ideas passed off as her own. With a lot of words ending in -ification thrown in for good measure.

Janos · 04/07/2007 09:11

Excellent post madamez, agree 100%

I'd also like to read monkeytrousers thesis - her posts are always articulate and interesting.

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Backtobasics · 04/07/2007 09:01

Sex sells... everything. Whether it be shampoo or food, sex is still the main selling point for everything. Look at those M&S adverts, the suductive voice they use. It's very sad that we now live in world where its all sex sex sex, how did we let it go this far?

aimeesmummy · 04/07/2007 08:37

Good post, monkeytrousers (is she still around? Would love to read her thesis).
I work in a male-dominated industry and it can be tricky at times but at the level I work at, playing the blokes at their own game works; higher up and it wouldn't be necessary, lower down and there'd be no point as you wouldn't get anywhere. However, I've been as guilty as the blokes of forwarding on "jokes" which are sexist.

madamez · 03/07/2007 21:19

Again, discusson about the 'objectification' of women always comes down to sexuality and sexual choice, when women are objectified as the carers, the cleaners, the bottom-wipers and washer-uppers who don't needto get paid for it because we do it out of natural, imaginary-friend-given womanliness. And the women who do choose to work in the sex industry, or wear revealing clothes and have lots of sex, are not just blamed if they get sexually assaulted or insulted or underpaid, but they get blamed for sexual assaults and insults perpetrated on other women - conveniently forgetting that the blame for such mistreatment lies with the man who committed the crime. If a woman gets attacke,d it's the attacker's fault, not the fault of another woman who posed for a photographer.

Lio · 03/07/2007 20:41

I know I always point people towards monkeytrousers' brilliant post on these threads, but I think it stands up to repeat readings. Janos, in case it doesn't come up in the right place, it's her post of Sat 15-Apr-06 18:05:36

Janos · 03/07/2007 20:31

I've just had a look at that Object site. Some of the 'examples' they had picked out from the lad mags were really awful.

I'd forgotten how vile these magazines can be.

It's not the men looking at naked women that bothers me, it's the attitude behind them which upsets me.

Brings back a lot of unpleasant memories from an old relationship....yuk. Enough said.

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Janos · 03/07/2007 20:21

Wow thanks everyone for some very inteersting and thought provoking posts. Had really begun to feel like I was the only one bothered by this!

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margoandjerry · 03/07/2007 19:44

[proud smiley]