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in wanting to thrash dd to within an inch of her life?

158 replies

Elasticwoman · 26/06/2007 20:47

I caught her in the act of stealing from my purse. It is not the first time. Am incandescent with rage.

Can any one suggest non-violent but effective remedy to correcting lightfingered and economical with the actualite dd? (She is almost as big as me so might thrash me back.)

OP posts:
FrannyandZooey · 27/06/2007 17:06

I don't see what the mobile or the iPod have got to do with anything

ggglimpopo · 27/06/2007 17:04

Mozhe - why would you play it down? Would you let it continue? What would you do if it carried on?

EmilyDavidson · 27/06/2007 17:03

Wow elasicwoman thats one harsh regime. Your dd has no mobile ,no ipod,no hard cash.No sweets or other goodies unless you say so. No wonder she is rebelling.

If you make it a big battle then she will have to fight you wont she ?
She will be able to think of worse things than nicking a few quid off her mum

Desiderata · 27/06/2007 17:03

MrRuff - Mohze has five children and she's 44. I would imagine that at least some of them are teenagers.

MrRuffalo · 27/06/2007 16:59

'Personally I wouldn't over react and would play it down....but that's just me !'

mohze so speaks the mother of non teenagers

Kewcumber · 27/06/2007 16:57

if she is almost a teenager, then you can't control what she spends her money on for long. Whetehr you like it or not, I think you have to give her a longer leash. Eating it on her own in her room isn't the biggest crime.

Unlike Mozhe I wouldn;t let it go. It is wrong to steal. You must give that messgae consistently even if you don;t make a huge dela of it, you surely can;t ignore it - keeping quiet sends her the message that it is OK.

Can she "work" back the moeny she has tkaen - gardening housework etc with a set rate per hour (say £2) would also give her some exercise and earn her pocket money going forward with the agreement that if she "earned" it she can spend it on what she likes.

jinxed · 27/06/2007 16:52

I got a set amount of pocket money each week, I got to spend it how I chose, but once it was gone, it was gone. I had no other money for the rest of the week if I blew it all on the saturday.

How old is DD? Could you just allow her some of her pocket money in her hand to spend as she wishes and say that is it for the week and it has to last?

TootyFrooty · 27/06/2007 16:51

I'm with F&Z on this one. Very wise words. I'd be concerned that not letting her spend her pocket money on what she wants (so that she feels she 'has' to steal) might be making her fondness for sweets into an issue. She's eating in secret and that is a road you really don't want to go down.

collision · 27/06/2007 16:49

I also think that you should be giving her the freedom to buy what she wants (within reason) without always knowing in advance.

I would be cross about the stealing but maybe she feels a bit trapped and is humiliated at having to tell you what she wants to buy.

tis tough having kids!

jinxed · 27/06/2007 16:45

I stole from my parents as a teen, usually no more than £1. Never got caught either, which is even stranger as my parents were tight!

FrannyandZooey · 27/06/2007 16:45

I want my children to eat healthily as much as the next person and I would also be upset if my child was buying sweets to eat alone in their room

but while this behaviour is not desirable, it isn't actually morally wrong in any way

by making her tell you what she wants to buy before giving her any pocket money (and presumably saying "no" if she wants to buy sweets or crisps) you are making eating these things into a moral issue

she hasn't got the freedom to do what she wants with her own money, so she is choosing to steal, to get the freedom to buy what she wants.

It's pretty tricky, don't you think? When are you planning to allow her to spend her own money on what she wants?

Elasticwoman · 27/06/2007 16:37

Thanks for all your comments, own experiences and advice, every one.

She uses the money to buy crisps and sweets.

She gets "virtual" pocket money, ie her dad keeps a record of how much she has and she can draw on it but has to say what she wants to spend it on. This is because (a) we caught her stealing before and (b) she will binge on crisps and sweets if we let her. She is a bit overweight (not obese) and hates exercise.

She also gets real pocket money from her grandfather.

She does not have an ipod or a mobile phone.
We eat well in this family, all sitting round the table together every day eating food cooked from fresh (mostly). I do not buy biscuits or crisps unless for a special event, but I do make cakes/biscuits and occasionally buy chocolate that we all share (family of 5). Dd can make shortbread if she wants something sweet, and I usually serve a sweet dish as dessert so she is not sugar-starved. What I object to, and have told dd this, is her buying a load of junk and taking it to her bedroom to eat on her own! I sometimes find the evidence later, stuffed down the side of her bed or on the floor.

Maybe I ought to listen to Mozhe and not make such an issue of her stealing money from me. But every time it happens again, I think I should have dealt with it more severely last time.

To the person who said look after your handbag even if you take it with you to the loo: you are right, I know I know - it usually happens when I've been stupid enough to leave temptation on the dining room table for her - which is half the reason I'm so furious: angy with her, angry with me.

Dh has come home early from work today and has taken dd (protesting, natch) on a walk in order to be able to talk to her one-to-one. So we'll see what the outcome of that is.

I have tried to impress upon her how wrong it is to steal, and she must know or she wouldn't bother to lie about it.

OP posts:
justaphase · 27/06/2007 13:27

Yep, I also took money from my parents as a teen, for quite a long time. Never got caught.

I am now a mature, law abiding citizen (bar the odd fare cheat)

PenelopePitstops · 27/06/2007 13:14

have you asked her why she needs it?

and does she realise its wrong? stupid question but some kids dont because its your mone, they also see it as theirs.

I would explain to her she needs to give the money back, gound her and re negotiate pocket money rules depending on why she 'needs' the moeny.

fishie · 27/06/2007 13:14

yes i took money too as a pre-teen, not loads but a bit. then someone at school found out (they were bullying me already) and were really horrible. when my mum found out she was so angry with them that the whole stealing thing was left alone, beyond agreeing it woudln't happen again.

i'm really interested to see that others did the same, it must be a fairly common thing then, perhaps it is to do with control? i have no idea why i took it, didn't do anythign useful with it.

ratclare · 27/06/2007 13:09

my son pinched money from my dad ,but alot ,like £50 ,i found it in his blazer pocket and confronted him ,apparently he had been doing it alot ,my dad is self employed and keeps a cash box in the house ,which he never locked, and my ds started by taking the odd 50p or £1 and then one day took a handful of notes .He was distraught when i confronted him ,but i made him take it to my parents house ,confess and apologise ,it ended after that. He had taken money from me previousley ,again a large sum that i ws stupid enough to leave lying around ,except i thought id spent it ,fairly hopeless with money,and when i discoivered it about 3 weeks later during a particularly skint patch i was angry but secretly pleased . The wierd thing is he never spent the money he took ,he just hid it

hippipotami · 27/06/2007 09:34

I pinched money from my mums purse when I was pre-teen so I could buy sweets. I thought it was a phase most pre-teens go through

mylastrolo · 26/06/2007 23:12

i like the door one will keep that for future reference in oh my less than 10 years time

paulaplumpbottom · 26/06/2007 22:58

ban her from going anywhere or using her phone

Emprexia · 26/06/2007 22:56

Personally, i'd remove all of her toys, nice clothes, make-up, bike...etc

Deprive her of everything none essential, ground her and tell her that she needs to earn everything back via good behaviour and an apology.

Stealing is an absolute no-no and she needs to learn that before she starts theiving from other people.

bookwormmum · 26/06/2007 22:32

Ask her why she needs or wants the money - teenagers have odd expenses? She might need to negotiate a new rate of pocket money which perhaps she could earn with doing some more chores around the house to teach her cause/effect - not that shortage of cash ever excuses stealing from you.

In the meantime, keep your handbag with you at all times even if you have to take it to the loo with you. Reduce temptation.

Louplet · 26/06/2007 22:18

What is she using the money for? Just a thought but any chance she is being bullied? If not and just usual teenage stuff. Maybe you could sit down with her and come up with a way she could earn extra pocket money by helping you with chores round the house? As well as giving her a good talking to of course

Cammelia · 26/06/2007 22:06

Does she get pocket money

RosemaryWoodhouse · 26/06/2007 22:05

Flog her ipod on ebay and give the money to charity.

mozhe · 26/06/2007 21:08

Fascinated re; use of psychiatrist.....did you ask her why she took the money ? Personally I wouldn't over react and would play it down....but that's just me !