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To be annoyed at people in large 4X4 pickups to complain that parking spaces too small

379 replies

Ripeberry · 26/06/2007 17:28

Hi, I had parked my car neatly within the lines marked out for the parking bay and was just returning back to it when a woman in a MASSIVE pick-up truck parks right next to me and so i have to wait as she gets out of her car.
She almost bashes my side of the car and then she gives me a look an says "Its not my fault these spaces are not big enough"
I had to really bite my tongue as she had two school age children with her as i would have loved to have said "well, most people drive normal cars and we don't all have a fat arse like you"
Because, no kidding, she was a fat arsed lady, almost totally round, no wonder she can't fit in spaces.
God help her if someone blocks her in, should be a funny sight trying to crawl in the boot to move the car.
Sorry about the rant, but she really got on my goat.
AB

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expatinscotland · 27/06/2007 11:13

'Tanya in her 4x4'.

Anyone watch 'Vroom, vroom'?

DH does and I love this sketch.

'Despite having owned several of these behemouth vehicles, Tanya is never quite sure how long/wide/high the car is . . .'

Boco · 27/06/2007 11:13

Top 10 reasons not to drive an urban 4x4

  1. You're not a farmer

Or a tree surgeon, country vet, wind turbine repairer, dry stone wall engineer or mountain rescue specialist. Unless you are (or in a handful of other occupations) there's really no need for you to get a big 4x4, particularly if you live in an urban area. Four wheel drive gives you better traction in snow or deep mud, and that's about it. It does not make your car safer, more manoeuvrable, or enable you to stop any quicker.

  1. Your family fits into a saloon car or people carrier

Most families and their luggage can in fact fit comfortably into a small hatchback. Even if you have lots of kids (and a big dog), an estate car or MPV often has more space than a 4x4 and can fulfil all your daily needs. What did your dad drive you around in when you were small?

  1. You will breathe cleaner air

Pollution studies have demonstrated that, in slow traffic, the dirtiest air isn't being breathed by the cyclists in the gutter or the people waiting for the bus on the pavement, but by those inside the cars in the middle of the road.

  1. You will save money

Data at www.vcacarfueldata.org.uk show that it costs around £100 more per month in petrol costs alone to run a 4-litre Range Rover compared with a 2-litre estate car. Currently road tax stops increasing at just 225 g/km of carbon dioxide, so drivers of smaller cars are effectively subsidising the 4x4 drivers. Two-thirds of people support higher taxes for 4x4s and British insurance companies admit that 4x4 drivers are not yet charged premiums that reflect the cost of their claims, so the bottom line could get even worse.

  1. You won't have to lie to your grandchildren

Our descendants will be left to deal with the effects of climate change caused by our profligate use of fossil fuels. Drivers of 4x4s should start editing their photo albums now.

  1. You will be less likely to kill a pedestrian

Most accidents involving pedestrians are caused when they stray onto the road without warning, so your superior driving skills may not help to avoid an accident. However, a better designed car could make all the difference to their survival chances. The greater height and weight of 4x4s, as well as their flat fronts and stiff bonnets, means they are bottom of the class in Euro-NCAP crash tests for pedestrian safety.

  1. You might see a small child early enough to avoid backing over them

Big, tall 4x4s have far bigger rear blind spots than normal cars, making it impossible to see a child for more than 15 feet behind them, and much further for short drivers. Check out the facts about the increased dangers to pedestrians from taller cars at www.kidsandcars.org.

  1. You will be less likely to injure people in other cars

The high bumpers on 4x4s can override safety features on other cars, such as side impact bars and crumple zones, and the extra weight of big 4x4s is a hazard in itself. The spare wheel on the back of many 4x4s often takes the place of a rear bumper and increases damage to other cars and the 4x4 itself in a 'shunt' incident.

  1. You will have a better time driving

Big 4x4s are notoriously difficult to park due to their poor visibility close to the car. When cornering, the high centre of gravity of a 4x4 reduces the responsivenesss and takes all the fun out of it. Don't expect to nip away from traffic lights either, due to all that extra weight.

  1. People won't think you are an 'idiot'

In an ordinary car, you won't get dirty looks from all and sundry when you drive around town, won't have to avoid eye contact with bus passengers, and cyclists won't mouth obscenities as they squeeze past you in a queue of traffic. As an extra bonus, other drivers might occasionally let you pull out ahead of them.

Aitch · 27/06/2007 11:11

silly you for walking, i say... you should get a 4x4 they're really safe.

Tortington · 27/06/2007 11:11

women can't park for shit anyway. for that reasn alone wome should be banned from driving large vehicles unless te pass a specal "i can park evn though i am a woman" test.

Boco · 27/06/2007 11:11

from that website -

Ground-level pollution from 4x4s is just as damaging as carbon dioxide emissions, and much more immediately dangerous.

4x4s can emit twice as much carbon monoxide, hydrocarbons and nitrogen dioxide as passenger cars. These chemicals cause ozone and other pollutants to build up around cities, leading to poor air quality and dangerous smog.

Despite the congestion charge, air quality in London is still way below minimum health standards on a regular basis. Professor Mike Pilling, an atmospheric scientist at the University of Leeds, said that London and other major cities would suffer most from the rise in dangerous emissions from car exhausts. "It's clear that we are not going to meet the objectives that the government has for air quality in 2005 and 2010."[1]

quadrophenia · 27/06/2007 11:09

on the way to school today, a co op lorry reversed parked, mounted the pavement as myself and my children werewalking along it, they had run of slightly ahead of me , there is no way he could have seen them, how wankerish is that?

Aitch · 27/06/2007 11:07

kerala you've just reminded me of the time when a 4x4 was 'parking' and hit a massive wheelie-bin on the pavement which then toppled over right beside me and dd (in her pram). god, no wonder i hate them. and no, a normal car wouldn't have toppled it if it had bumped it. it's the height, y'see?
saw that about the one child a week dying by their parent's car... tragic.

quadrophenia · 27/06/2007 11:06

Aitch your post yesterday 22.37 is spot on

expatinscotland · 27/06/2007 11:06

We used to carry a wood plank in our boot to help 4x4 eejit drivers get out of the snow, Grumpy.

YES, you STILL get stuck in them, folks.

YES, if there is ice on the road, you will slide.

YES, in high cross-winds, you are much more likely to flip/roll the car, as when taking tight turns on bendy roads.

GrumpyOldHorsewoman · 27/06/2007 11:04

I sold a Ford Mondeo because it was a PITA to park in crappy little English parking spaces only 6 inches wider than Fiesta. I used to have to let my passengers out before parking because you couldn't open the doors both sides when parked. Couldn't be arsed to drive a 4x4 in a city. BTW, Dh got a 60 grand Range Rover (not ours) stuck in the South Yorkshire mud this morning. Too cocky, thought it could go through anything (obviously even a mighty Range Rover has its limitations).

I must admit to a liking for some of those 4x4s, though . At least I'll never be able to afford one - far more interesting things to spend my (pitiful) money on!

Boco · 27/06/2007 11:04

well muppets child safety isn't more important Aitch - if it was she wouldn't get a 4x4 - in USA one child A WEEK is killed by being reversed over by their parents in their 4x4. That's not very safe.

muppetgirl · 27/06/2007 11:04

Have to go as have m/w app at 11.30. Will be back later to catch up.

Might be tmi but don't want to be seen as running away.....

IcingOnTheCake · 27/06/2007 11:04

I drive a small car (a polo) and my dp drives a van for work, plus he has a jeep, which we use if we go out altogether.

I love my polo, i am too scared to drive anything bigger and it's very good for driving round town. My dp is 6ft 5, he doesn't fit in my polo as he is tall and massive (not fat by the way just massive). He is also disabled. He has a jeep because it is easy for him to get in and out of because the seats are high so he can just sit down and twist his body round to face forward. This also means he doesn't have to bend down to get in the car and be pulled up to get out.

kerala · 27/06/2007 11:03

Agree with Aitch. The price you pay for your perceived "safety" in driving these enormous cars around towns (excluding those that need them in the sticks) is that a majority of people will think you a selfish git.

Speaking as someone who was nearly knocked over by one whilst 9 months preg and on crutches. Who needs these in North London for goodness sake?

Always make a point of making them reverse if we meet in a road that would have been passable if we both had average cars. The number of people driving them that cant manoevere (sp) them properly is quite amusing.

expatinscotland · 27/06/2007 11:03

If you're looking for a reason, Aitch, just repeat the following mantra: 'There is no society'.

Aitch · 27/06/2007 11:02

hhhmm, i don't know muppetgirl, i think there's a little something in your tone that suggests you are not being quite truthful...

anyway, seriously, why is your child's safety more important than mine? you never did get round to answering that.

Boco · 27/06/2007 11:01

Muppet girl, i'm quite good at spotting sarcasm, that was sarcasm wasn't it? I bet it was. You're not really getting rid of your big car are you - hahahaha. Very good.

So, look this is very good at explaining what is wrong and why 4x4s are NOT safer for anyone, even you

lucykatie · 27/06/2007 11:01

also, i am a considerate driver, despite my 4x4....honestly i am, i dont speed and if i was to clip anybodys car i would leave a note or try and find the person.

i do try and park out of the way of busy car parks, in fact just the other day i parked and my 4x4 was all alnoe in huge car park......some fella parks right next to me despite loads of other spaces.....he does no more than wait for me to have a 'go'. hey ho, i did explain the above and he says that he has more rights than me to park where he wants!!!!!!
odd.

expatinscotland · 27/06/2007 11:00

TMI, muppet.

muppetgirl · 27/06/2007 11:00

That was the same astra I accidentally grew rice in the front passenger foot well.

muppetgirl · 27/06/2007 10:59

Nickname form uni -even etched it one drunken night on the side of my car (astra, not 4x4)but, unfortunately, spelt it wrong!

expatinscotland · 27/06/2007 10:58

Brought to you by the legacy of Thatcher's 'There is no society' era!

muppetgirl · 27/06/2007 10:58

Of course Aitch. I take on board all your points and totally agree with them.
I thank you for pointing out all of my faults as I was driving round in a pure selfish haze.

SO sorry to have offended so many people, I never realsied this was such a contentious issue.

Aitch · 27/06/2007 10:56

see lucykatie that's the kind of honesty i can live with, lol... it's what i suspect most 4x4 drivers think.

expatinscotland · 27/06/2007 10:56

Very succinctly put post, 'muppet' girl.

What a great nickname, too!