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to feel uneasy about my son reading Enid Blyton books

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frances5 · 22/06/2007 22:10

My son wants me to read him a book called the "Wishing Chair", I have read two chapters of it and it has a pixie in it called "Chinky". To make it worst the drawing of "Chinky" shows an elf like creature with slitted eyes. However I think my son is totally and utter oblivous to this.

Admitally Enid Blyton lived 50 years ago when people didn't know better. But do you think I am making a mistake letting my son enjoy this book? He is even trying to read it himself that he is so desperate to know what happens next.

When my son chose this book I had no idea that it had a pixie in it called "Chinky" other wise I would have diverted him towards something like Ronald Dahl.

OP posts:
kimi · 23/06/2007 21:05

LOL nikki it could also be seen as crule to cats, flamingos and roses!!

Desiderata · 23/06/2007 21:05

We'll be OK, Armadillo. I assume you're thick skinned ...!

Quattrocento · 23/06/2007 21:04

Hello Collision. My oh my. Floored me, that argument. Absolutely floored me. I may not be able to pick myself up to go on the bike ride now.

Get a life, eh? And do what with it? Read EB? Nope. I am sticking to my own life. Tis better. I don't have to read junk fiction in my own life.

Nightynight · 23/06/2007 21:04

lol I beg to differ d - you come across as just bursting with suppressed aggression.

kimi · 23/06/2007 21:04

Well said R90

NikkiBFG · 23/06/2007 21:04

Kimi - offended at the mad hatter as insulting to people with mental health probs.....

rhubarb90 · 23/06/2007 21:03

It seems quite simple really - if he's young enough for you to be reading books to him and you don't feel comfortable using a name in the book, change it. When I read long books aloud to my DS I occasionally change words to make them easier for him to understand. I don't really see the difference. And as it has been pointed out several times, whole generations of people have grown up reading EB books and have managed not to end up as racists. It's not something one picks up from reading books.

kimi · 23/06/2007 21:03

DP has ask me to ask how you ladies feel about Alice in wonderland and Lewis Carroll?

Desiderata · 23/06/2007 21:01

..... Like a noddy dog

Quattrocento · 23/06/2007 21:01

I don't get the google point. We are meant to conclude that the inventors of google (who are pretty good blokes) liked Enid Blyton. Er so what?

NikkiBFG · 23/06/2007 21:00

The Bristol meet up looks to be very interesting

I won't order ginger beer....

TheArmadillo · 23/06/2007 21:00

D - if I cut out all the people I disagreed with I wouldn't have any friends left

or should that be

Nightynight · 23/06/2007 21:00

[shakes head smiling gently]

collision · 23/06/2007 20:59

Did this thread kick off?

Couldnt be bothered to read it all.

We love EB here and DS is enthralled by the characters etc

Get a life Quattro!!

kimi · 23/06/2007 20:59

I can only go from what I have experanced so please don't all jump on me.
When DS1 was born [he is now 11] DH1 was working at the house of a west Indian lady that he had worked for quite a few times, and this lady could knit like there was no tomorrow, she knitted for the local hospital prem baby unit, red cross, and other things and she was good at it, she also knitted toys, and she gave DH1 a gift for DS1 ...it was a golly. She saw DH1 was taken by surprise on being given this and she told him DH1 it is a toy, no more no less, I knit them because I will not be told I should find a knitted toy offensive.
I must admit it was never taken out of our home but it lives with all the other outgrown toys in the loft,

Desiderata · 23/06/2007 20:59

I guess that's us out on the Bristol meet-up then

TheArmadillo · 23/06/2007 20:56

I quite happy to go on your bikeride - as long as I don't have to ride a bike

I think you talk sense Q.

'Political correctness gone mad' is one phrase that sends me into a spitting rage

Desiderata · 23/06/2007 20:55

I can only laugh, NN, at your question.

None, so far as I know. But thanks for asking.

Quattrocento · 23/06/2007 20:53

No I don't TA. Can't we just go on that bike ride?

I think that one way people have of excusing a little bit of racist language on the side is to say "it doesn't offend anyone" (even though it manifestly does) and "it's political correctness gorn maad" (a fatuous and essentially meaningless comment) and I've got black/white/pink/blue friends I meet regularly when they are serving me in the chinky so I can't POSSIBLY have any need to moderate my language.

wheresthehamster · 23/06/2007 20:52

I loved EB as a child and never read anything else if I could help it BUT I do remember reading Mystery of the Burnt Cottage when Frederick Algernon Trotter gets his nickname of Fatty and the other children thought it was funny. Didn't really like that and I was probably only about 7.

Nightynight · 23/06/2007 20:51

my experience is somewhat similar to Nikkies. However, just because I recovered to a certain extent from the views that I was exposed to as a child, doesnt mean that I want my children to go through the same experience. I would rather that they started from a less racist viewpoint.
However, I also want them to experience the EB magic.
Will be forced to re-read every EB before letting my children have it or consigning it to the bin, I think

desiderata - do you have problems?

JodyW · 23/06/2007 20:50

Frances5, look what you've started! This is a whole lot better than Law and Order and CSI reruns! What a chat.

Desiderata · 23/06/2007 20:50

There's no need to duck, kimi.

People are people. They can defend themselves when in a foreign land. The last thing they need is uber-PC ... it makes them feel awkward and vulnerable and I do wish that some people would realize that their efforts are counter-productive to civic harmony.

Quattrocento · 23/06/2007 20:50

Not sure if that remark was addressed to me D - but if so "You think I am..." what?

TheArmadillo · 23/06/2007 20:49

I don't get this 'telling other people what to get upset' by malarky.

WHo on here has said I don't want my child reading EB cos Joe Bloggs down the road would be offended? Cos I've missed it if they have.

I don't want my child reading EB because I am offended by the attitudes in it.