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not to want nursery to feed DS marmite and crisps

31 replies

wildholly · 31/05/2007 00:46

Okay so DS is just 7 months old and he eats practically anything (mix of BLW and puree). My nursery has a book where they record what he has eaten. I am pissed off over the cake and toast and jam but not said anything, however the marmite and crisps really worrys and annoys me. I'm a doctor, my under and post-grad education has taught me salt is bad for under one's. Basic life skills tells me that marmite and crisps are high in salt, crisps also have no nutritional value. why oh why would a nursery give these to a baby... and why am I made to feel like a freak for asking not to give them to my DS? Anyone had a similar experience or words of wisdom as they would be gratefully received.

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lisasophie · 04/06/2007 18:30

YANBU. How can anyone think it is ok to feed children that age crisps . I hope they are something like the organix corn crisps which are carrot flavoured and not a bag of walkers cheese and onion.

catsmother · 04/06/2007 11:21

Bloody hell, at 7 months, my children had only just graduated onto baby rice & pureed veg.

Salt content aside (though I'm not dismissing that) surely crisps for a child with - say - 1 tooth, is a ridiculously dangerous and stupid food anyway. What were they thinking ?

So, you're not being unreasonable, and if the nursery have implied you're stupid/neurotic/fussy they are being extremely ignorant.

alicet · 04/06/2007 09:01

YANBU at all. Our nursery has employed a nutritionist to set a menu (they have a 4 week rotating one) and it is full of nutritious stuff. You don't need this sort of sh*t to make you feel bad about leaving your ds at nursery - thats bad enough anyway!

I agree that I am more relaxed about the sugar thing but was totally neurotic about salt until ds was 1 and am now still very careful to limit what he has. Crisps a def no no but he does have marmite.

Anyway it doesn't matter even if everyone here thinks you're a nutter (which they clearly don't) or the nursery thinks you're neurotis - the important thing is that he is your child and they should give him what you want. WIll they find an alternative for him when the others are having crisps and marmite?

SofiaAmes · 04/06/2007 06:38

One of my main criteria when picking a nursery/child carer was what they fed my child. I rejected several highly recommended nurseries because they did not serve fresh fruit with every meal. I think you are wasting your time trying to retrain a nursery that thinks that crisps and marmite are ok for a 7 mo. old. Just because they stop with those items, doesn't mean they won't make other unwise choices about diet. Crisps and marmite are not just unhealthy, they are dangerous to feed to a 7 mo old.

Loshad · 01/06/2007 22:52

i'd move him, not in an over reacting manner but any nursery that thinks crisps are an ok thing to feed a baby is seriously lacking - what else are they up to??

wildholly · 01/06/2007 22:22

I did speak to them about the crisps and marmite and they said they would put it on the board that he wouldn't have them anymore. It feels that I'm being the stupid one, but it just seems so damn obvious to me. The jam etc I've decided to just let go on.

Thanks for the feedback, it's really nice to know I'm not just a freaky neurotic mum. Some really good suggestions which I will take up with the nursery

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Emprexia · 01/06/2007 16:47

I dont mind giving a little bit of what i'm eating to my 9mo old DS just for him to try, but as a meal? No way.

I think i'd be pretty p*ssed if i found out he'd been given stuff like that for dinner

SoupDragon · 01/06/2007 12:44

The crisps could be absolutely fine from a salt point of view. There are salt free ones readily available.

ELF1981 · 01/06/2007 12:41

I had a friend take her 9 month old dd out of nursery because when she picked her up one day, they hadn't given her any dinner as "she didn't seem to like the curry"

marmite isn't that bad, lots of people say its a good enough brekkie on toast for babies (though i think the taste is fowl!)

pointydog · 01/06/2007 12:18

Those foods are so ridiculous for a 7 month old I can't believe the thread is genuine.

helenhismadwife · 01/06/2007 12:10

you are right to feel annoyed especially with all the publicity trying to encourage parents to feed their children healthy food, crisps are not healthy.
I may be wrong but I thought schools had to provide parents with a menu so am a bit suprised that nurserys dont do the same.
My daughter goes to a nursery here in France and we have to provide her food, they do sometimes have birthday cake and frequently have fruit thats in season they have their own garden and are growing strawberries, raspberries and other stuff so they take the children to pick them, wash them and let them eat them.

edam · 31/05/2007 10:07

I wouldn't feed a baby crisps - very stupid, no nutrition, too salty and choking risk. Wouldn't feed a 7mo marmite either - your nursery have shown they are clueless about food, I wouldn't trust them to only use a scraping. Outrageous.

Lolly68 · 31/05/2007 10:05

My nursery also cooks food on the premises and they have the food menu up weekly so you can see what DD is eating. However crisps are not on the menu and I would be absolutely furious if they were.

mumzarello · 31/05/2007 09:49

I don't think you are being unreasonable on the crisps or on wanting to restrict the salt in your ds's diet however I don' think marmite is any where near as bad..

I give my dd toast with a marmite scraping - I restrict salt in virtually everything but here feel the good outweighs the bad.

Marmite website has this to say:-

"Health professional advice about the weaning of infants of less than 12 months is to choose products marked as being low in salt as well as avoiding the addition of salt to foods. However, toast "soldiers" spread with a little Marmite are suggested as 'suitable snacks for young children, aged one year or more, along with fruit and vegetables, and dairy foods like yoghurt.' **"

Contains b vitamins, iron, folic acid, thiamin & riboflavin& niacin

The tiny portion I give my dd contains about 0.1g salt - 10% of her daily recommended max & about 25% of her actual max

marmite nutrition

Plus SHE LOVES IT!

BandofMothers · 31/05/2007 08:42

btw, I only put on the mearest scraping of it, and she is nearly 10 mths old. I so think 7 mths is too young for crisps tho, well and marmite actually.

Rubyslippers · 31/05/2007 08:40

be really clear with your nursery about what you want your DS to be given to eat - definitely ask for a meeting to discuss it. My DS has various allergies as well as dislikes and these are all logged in his record file

They also clearly display the food for the week so parents can see what is on offer

My nursery gives all children 5 portions of fruit and veg per day and no junk - he has had cake once at nursery and that was for someone's birthday (he has been there 6 months)

they do offer marmite on toast for the older children (1 year +)

If you don't get a satisfactory answer you may have to put him in a different nursery

BandofMothers · 31/05/2007 08:39

I give marmite sandwiches to dd2 I thought it was good for you

Twiglett · 31/05/2007 08:39

it sounds to me as though your DS is at the wrong nursery

try to find one that cooks fresh (preferably organic) food on the premises and has a grasp of minimum nutritional guidelines

I would personally be livid (and me a marmite snack as well)

Furrymummy · 31/05/2007 08:38

Marmite is foul and disgusting.
Right to be concerned, for adults, the recommended amount of salt per day is 6g, it's much less than that for for kiddies and babies (I think it might be 1-2g)!

currantbunmum · 31/05/2007 08:36

Our dd's nursery provides a bi weekly menu, (breakfast, lunch and tea) and it includes at least 5 portions of fruit and veg a day, all of it made within the nursery itself, and it's the type of food I would make at home. That said, they do have Marmite on toast sometimes, but this is "baby marmite", a small amount of marmite mixed with butter, then spread on the toast.

But no crisps, and only cake when it is someones birthday.

I would sometimes like to stay for lunch myself when I see it descibed on the blackboard in the morning

berolina · 31/05/2007 08:32

Marmite is not entirely un-nutritional (has lots of B vitamins and folic acid, for example) but I agree that it is certainly not suitable for a baby or indeed a younger toddled. As for crisps, words fail me. Like you, the salt would worry me considerably more than the sugar, although jam at that age I would also see as a no-no.

BadZelda · 31/05/2007 08:30

Of course not: Marmite is the devil's food!

gingernutlover · 31/05/2007 08:21

and alsok, nursery should follow your requirements, I am sure you are paying them enough for them to provide decent heathy food!

gingernutlover · 31/05/2007 08:19

OMG, no not unreasonable at all

my dd's nursery are the other way, everything is annabel karmel recipes and they will not feed her anything unless it is on a list i have made - a few times she has miossed out when she first started, just because I hadn't put silly things on her list. They even rang me at work to ask whether she could have somthing once.

They do give her treats type food too, eg shortbread - homemade, jelly with fruit, icecream with fruit and sponge cake, but they also offer at least 5 portions of fruit and veg a day too.

Your DS needs a balanced diet, and iot should not include marmite or crisps just yet - until you decide you want him to have them

duchesse · 31/05/2007 03:23

Oh.my.goodness!

No you are most certainly not being unreasonable. So much salt and empty calories for babies possibly barely on solids (two of mine weren't at all at that age...)

Sounds like a nursery with little grasp on basic nutrition- what else do they have little grasp on?

Can you make an appointment with the manager? If not successful, shop them to Ofsted. It's exactly what Ofsted should be there for.

Failing all these, vote with your feet and walk making sure you inform every person (inc potential parents) you can WHY you are leaving. Make sure you tell nursery owner that will certainly NOT be recommending her establishment.