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To ask how one 'goes to the papers'?

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bandthenjust · 06/07/2018 22:56

As it says!
When something outrageous happens and somebody declares, 'go to the papers!', How do you actually do it? I mean, how and who do you approach with the issue?

Would really like to know! Actually googled it but it just came up with how to write a paperGrin

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otterturk · 06/07/2018 23:02

Journalist here.

News desks numbers easy to find online plus we put details on twitter.

Is there any way of getting legal advice from the paper prior to going a head with the story, to ensure you're protected and cannot be sued (even though telling the truth); or should you get independent legal advice - and what type of advice would that be?

MaisyPops · 07/07/2018 21:58

No problem. Then when you call ofsted / fill in the complaints form, make sure everything is clear, factual, no speculation etc.

From there Ofsted will decide on their course of action (e.g. inspection, referal etc)

bandthenjust · 07/07/2018 21:51

Thank you maisypops, I have followed them Smile

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MaisyPops · 07/07/2018 21:24

bandthenjust
I don't think you're considering it for sensationalist reasons. More I got the impression you have something you feel needs raising and are frustrated your current (perhaps scattergunned) attempts to raise it haven't had the impact you want.

Therr are channels for thisvsort of thing. You just need to follow them.

bandthenjust · 07/07/2018 20:07

Lol

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LeighaJ · 07/07/2018 20:06

@bandthenjust

Have an exciting title followed by a first line hook and wait for the Sun or Daily Fail to show up.

bandthenjust · 07/07/2018 19:42

maisypops thank you very much for your reply, I'm using a tablet so I could find no link/option for online -complaints for academies. I could find it for primary, secondary and sen, but when I looked for academies it advised me to go to the school, which I've done.
I'm sorry that you are under the impression that I'm going to the press purely for sensationalism.

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MaisyPops · 07/07/2018 19:17

contact.ofsted.gov.uk/online-complaints
There. That took me under 1 minute to find in google.

Just to clarify:
The LADO is a local authority designated officer. They are separate from the LA for dealing with schools. The LADO is the council's safeguarding person. Anyone can report to the LADO. I work in an academy and we are explicitly told that shouls we feel school has safeguarding issues and wasn't dealing with them then we are legally able to go to the LADO.

It sounds to me like you have an issue (haven't seen the original thread so not going to comment on whether it is/isn't an issue) but are approaching things in a 'I want to kick off so I'll scattergun complain to anyone and then be annoyed I'm not getting anywhere' way.

  1. School policy for safeguarding and complaints
  2. Academy trust level / MAT leaders
  3. LADO
  4. Ofsted

You need to be able to outline the facts of the issues based on your understanding. No reading between the lines. No assumptions. No I'm furious so will exaggerate a little to be taken seriously. You then need to outline where/when you raised things with the school (and who to) & why you feel it hasn't been dealt with. Have you spoken to the school's safeguarding lead, for example?

You also need to be aware that just because you've not seen something doesn't mean nothing has happened. You can absolutely raise your perceptions.

You get the idea. In my experience, it seems Ofsted will first ask how the person complaining has aimed to resolve an issue in school (hence why lots of us tell people repeatedly on MN taht threatening Ofsted is a silly thing to do)

If you have serious concerns then hopefully I've helped give you some ways to raise them further. I don't think the press is the answer.

bandthenjust · 07/07/2018 12:42

I started a thread a couple of days ago 'violence in primary school' on the primary schools but... Not sure how to link!

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Snowysky20009 · 07/07/2018 11:17

Have you been through all the proper channels first?

JennyHolzersGhost · 07/07/2018 11:11

Can you start a thread on the education boards here ? Lots of very well informed people who will have experience of dealing with academies.

bandthenjust · 07/07/2018 09:26

I'm not about to start with the paper's or god forbid, 'social media', I see it as a last ditch attempt to getting somethin g done. just didnt know how to go about it.

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bandthenjust · 07/07/2018 09:24

The school situation is just... Words fail me. It's an academy, so the LA wont do anything (I rang them).
Also, I've tried to go to OFSTED but I can't for same reasons - which I find bizarre, so if anyone can help me go through OFSTED I'd be g reatfull.
I've contacted the people in charge of the Academy (it's a faith school) and I'm waiting to hear from them.
One of the main issues I have in regards to complaining to the school, is that they point-blank refuse to give me the governors details. Which I've been told is illegal by the LA, but the school still won't help.

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CheeseyToast · 07/07/2018 09:12

You can phone or email whoever you want. A newspaper won't publish without checking facts or asking the other side to respond. Very unlikely to get a school complaint published unless it's something like a child being locked in a classroom overnight

MaisyPops · 07/07/2018 08:19

If it's safeguarding concerns, do you have reasonable proof? Have you raised them with the school?
Have you contacted the LADO?
Have you contacted the police for advice (if relevant)?
Have you contacted Ofsted?

I'd be doing all of those before going to the papers, after all they are the people professionally equipped to respond to those situations (and probably 9 times out of 10 better placed to investigate than a local paper out for a quick story).

bandthenjust · 07/07/2018 08:15

Lol eleanor, it's local I'd like to contact, and it's sort of a bit gri m; it's about safeguardi ng concerns in a school. Thanks for all the replies, I'll start contacting people on Monday.

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EleanorAbernathy · 07/07/2018 04:33

I emailed our local paper and they printed my "sad face" photo on the front page! Grin

justilou1 · 07/07/2018 02:12

I thought you just wrote on AIBU and it got printed in the Fail.....

LegallyBrunet · 07/07/2018 00:12

I did this last year. I just messaged their Facebook page saying I had a story I thought they might be interested in, told them a bit about it and they got back in touch to arrange to send a reporter out.

jainaproudm · 06/07/2018 23:51

Another journo chiming in - if you have a complaint that would be newsworthy, contact your local newspaper editorial desk.

Don't be offended if they say no or aren't interested though - unfortunately, we get a LOT of it, and a lot of the time what's genuinely upsetting/enraging/shocking to an individual just doesn't make for 'good' news, and we get a lot of upset people wondering why we haven't published their dispute with their neighbours etc.

PinkBuffalo · 06/07/2018 23:19

I did local this year for the first time. Just rang the news desk and they had me in one afternoon with their senior reporter.
The reporter was very kind

bandthenjust · 06/07/2018 23:15

Oh wow, thank you! Learn something new everyday!
I actually want to make a public complaint- or rather a complaint, publicly, is there such a thin g?

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JennyHolzersGhost · 06/07/2018 23:03

Go to a news agency. They sell stories to the papers and are a much better bet than contacting a paper directly as they will know where best to place your story. They are also better resourced for handling members of the public than newspaper newsdesks are. Just google U.K. news agency + selling story or somesuch.

Wolfiefan · 06/07/2018 23:03

There's a Daily Fail Sad Face App!

listsandbudgets · 06/07/2018 23:02

Try typing "report a story to the press" into google and you'll find your answer.

Many high profile individuals cultivate relationships with particular journalists or get approached.. everyone else has to go through the normal channels!