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In thinking 5 homework tasks/week is way too much for 5-6yr olds?

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hex · 15/05/2007 18:40

dd has been given yet another homework task to do by her (state) primary school...she's just turned 6 and is in year 1 and currently gets given:

a) Two reading books/week (each 32 pages long)

b) 6 words to memorise for a spelling test on Fridays

c) handwriting practice for over the weekend

d) maths homework for the weekend

After a hard day at school, I would much prefer her to be out playing/doing sthg else..to say nothing of the pressure it places on family life to have to squeeze this stuff in.

Just wondering what other dcs have to do?

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nooka · 19/05/2007 09:13

I think that all schools should have their own homework policy (we only got it because of dh's stinky letter - although we might have had a copy with the dc's started at the school as well). I'd ask the the school secretary for one. The guidelines are national - might be on the DfES website, I guess.

katelyle · 17/05/2007 22:27

There are always parents who love homework - we call them Boater-istas!

Elasticwoman · 17/05/2007 20:59

OP that sounds like a lot of hw for a 5 year old. But teachers can get into trouble with some parents for not setting enough. What if you write in the home-school diary that dc hasn't done xyz hw, showing that it's with your approval. You can't stop the teacher testing the spelling, but so what if lo is on a certain reading book for longer than half a week?

My dd is in Yr 6 and has had lots of hw for the SATS but her teacher said to me - don't worry if she doesn't do it all, just write me a note in the h-s diary. I know that children have lives.

hex · 17/05/2007 12:31

Nooka, where can I get a copy of the homework policy for primary schools - is it accessible online?

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midnightexpress · 17/05/2007 11:03

Strewth! I'm at all this. Poor children. Have any of their teachers suggested what exactly a 6 yr old is supposed to do with all this knowledge? What exactly are they going to write with their perfectly formed letters (sonnets, perhaps)? And what, read on their own so their parents can work a bit longer?

makes me so

Sixofone · 17/05/2007 07:35

Whatever happened to kids being allowed to enjoy school? I remember that we rarely had any homework at primary school 'back in the day' (I'm 32 ) and I've still managed a Masters so hardly educationally subnormal.

Are private schools worse or better than state schools for homework?

ChiTownLady · 17/05/2007 00:06

ds age 4 is in nursery and will be in reception september - gets: 1 phonetics worksheet on friday to be in following friday - that is learning letter and sound, writing it and comin up with other works with same sound ( and ideally writing them and doing anything else associated - like picyures/cut and paste ect) he is also gets at ORT book each tuesday and thursday (stage 1 first words) with a parental comments book to fill in each night (my homework!)and a school library book on a thursday but no pressure when to give it back...

butterflymum · 16/05/2007 23:40

Our youngest, aged 4yrs, is in P1 (equivalent, I think, to Reception in England). He gets homework on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday.

Each night, his homework, at the moment, consists of Reading (usually about 7 pages of Oxford Reading Tree stage 2 or 3 book), recognising two words (for test on Friday), writing one word out three times, learning two sums and doing a worksheet (worksheet varies each night, for example, pictures with accompanying sentence and two possible words to complete same, with correct one to be circled).

nooka · 16/05/2007 23:01

Well ds got a time out for not handing in three pieces of maths homework yesterday. Dh wrote a fairly stinky note (I didn't see it, but he can be a little OTT) and we got a stinky one back, along with a copy of the homework policy. (This may also be because it co-incided with us telling the sdchool that we were taking the the children out of school for three days during term time, which they are not happy about). I think that there is some mistake, because the maths homework always gets done, but apparently the children aren't so good at writing their names on the sheets, and ds has been known to repudiate his work (I think he is embarrassed about the way it looks).

According to the homework policy, homework is an opportunity for parents to "co-educate" children I think I do that all the time without school needing to help me... Government guidance is that yr 1 and 2 children should have 1 hour per week, yr3&4 1.5 hrs, and yr 5&6 30 mins per day. The reading can apparently be included in that time (or not, the inference is, I think). I wonder if I can say to the school that as it takes over an hour to get ds from the crying stage to the learning stage for his spellings he should therefore not have to do any more homework?

There is some great stuff in this policy! Apparently homework set for holidays or weekends should be set so that there are two school day evenings so "families can enjoy their recreation time fully".

There is also this great line: "we expect children to submit their homework on time as part of the development of their self discipline as part of their development of job worthiness" This is from a primary school FGS! Do they think homework might help you with a paper round or something?

I suspect I find the whole thing annoying because I think that work life balance is imprant, I tell my team at work not to take work home with them, and then have to force my children to do tasks neither I nor they wish to do. I don't think it helps our relationship much!

Nightynight · 16/05/2007 22:24

It really pisses me off, that homework was trumpeted as raising standards.
In my childrens school (German), they have copious homework, and dd1 is actually at a lower standard of maths than I was, at a homework free, English primary school in the 70s.
She hasnt done any adding or multiplying of fractions, and she is only just doing long division, and it is still only dividing by small numbers less than 10.
They are not making it up in other subjects either, they do very little science for example.

katelyle · 16/05/2007 21:29

TenaLady - don't worry. There is absolutely no evidence to indicate that homework at primary age has any impact al all on longer term learning. I don't think primary children should have homework at all - except perhaps reading books.

crunchie · 16/05/2007 20:51

tbh wwb and brahhne dd2 would love all that and she is only 6 I do think it is down to the child though. DD1 in yr 3 will barely do her homework and although they say they should I go in at every parents evening and tell them I disagree with homework, especially for the infants, therefore if my child 'dedcides' to do their homework, great, if not then I am NOT going to force them.

BHANNAE · 16/05/2007 10:24

I wouldn't be worried if she got no homework at all at this age. When I was at primary we only got homework in the last year to prepare us for secondary which worked for me!

BHANNAE · 16/05/2007 10:22

She has been moved up into class 3 with the year 3 pupils though so some others in her class are 8.
There are 3 more who are 7 this time with her though and she joins with yr2 to do sats this week.She will turn 7 in July.
I was concerned that she had been moved but I dont want to hold her back and she is very happy.

TenaLady · 16/05/2007 10:19

Reading this lot, I am beginning to think that our school is not performing.
Ds in reception gets a book each night to read. No maths and no spellings.

A lot of kids in reception dont even know their letters properly, so what chance of spelling tests other than to frustrate them and deterr.

BHANNAE · 16/05/2007 10:17

Yep, just a bog standard free school.

puddle · 16/05/2007 10:12

DS is in year 2 and never gets homework. When he was on the reading scheme he had one book a week, now he is off it he can choose a book to bring home from the library.

All of them can bring a book from the classroom shelves home a night if they want.

EnidTheInvisible · 16/05/2007 10:10

bhannea and wwb are they state schools?

I'd be pissed off I was PAYING to stress my kids out

EnidTheInvisible · 16/05/2007 10:09

dd1's outstanding state primary doesnt give ANY homework until class 4 (the last two years)

she gets a book to read - keeps it until she has finished it. She is 7.

I think that is brilliant.

MissGolightly · 16/05/2007 10:08

I don't agree with homework for under 10s at all. DS is fortunately too young for school at the moment and I am hoping that current policies will have changed by the time he gets there. A school day is long enough for a little one, they shouldn't have to work at home as well .

Does anyone know if you can decline homework for your child or is it completely compulsory?

stleger · 16/05/2007 10:05

Words fail me.

BHANNAE · 16/05/2007 10:02

My dd is 6 and also gets a similar level of homework as wwb dd.
The last hw set had several tasks within the one piece including finding out what an iambic pentameter was, making notes on the predictive language, marking down alliteration and then writing the final part of the poem she was studying herself.
I was appalled and rang my mum to discuss whether or not I should write a letter/ask for an appointment to say I thought it innapropriate.She spoke to my dd and asked her what each part of the hw meant and she understood it so my Mum said best to let her do it.
She also had several other pieces including a french text to translate, which she did and enjoyed it.I don't do it with her as I think that defeats the object and I leave it to her to decide when to do it.
This is the second school she has attended and the difference is immense between the two.Whereas at the last school they insisted on making her read up through the levels at the new school they tested her reading age and gave her appropriate material.
I know she is very clever and wants to do the work atm but I still think there is time enough to have to spend all your evenings doing homework and that children should be children for a while.

tinkerbellie · 15/05/2007 22:38

jesus my ds is in reception and all we have to do is read there book and do a selection of words (that changes once a week)

how do you find the time?

Aloha · 15/05/2007 22:38

God, what a nightmare. Too much too young. I never did homework at primary school. Children need time to just be IMO.

singersgirl · 15/05/2007 22:36

I am at the amounts of homework some of your children get. DS2 (5 and in Y1) gets reading as and when (books of his own choice) and, from the start of this term, 10 spellings a week for a test on Tuesdays. They are grouped into 4 ability groups for spellings ("Some of the children just had letters to write, not words, Mummy"), but DS2 just fills in his sheet and doesn't look at them again until the test.

Researching Shakespeare seems a bit much. I mean, DS2 is a very able reader, but Shakespearean language is, shall we say, rather opaque?