To be angry at getting BNP guff thro' my letterbox?

Find out the address of your local BNP councillor and post the leaflets back though their letterbox.

GBW a friend of mine was so sick with the BNP stuff coming through his door that on voteing day he voted for them, he then went up to the one that had turned out at the local polling station, handed HIM his voteing form said keep up the good work, keep the n in their place and walked off......

My friend is black, it made the lacal papers and made the BNP look total prats [they are anyway]

I will see if i can find the paper bit on line..

I agree with moondog although it makes me incredibly nervous that they exist as a party and have supporters. Also like lucyellenmum's present idea!

i walked out of the door and threw their crappy leaflet in the recycling bin in front of them, they shpve shi*e through m door every monday

Saintmaybe: putting a leaflet through someoen's door is not the same as shouting 'fire' in a crowded theatre. That's used as an example of free speech to mean behaviour that causes an immediate physical risk to others. Expressing opinions, whatever those opinions may be, are not the same as telling people that there is an immediate physical threat to their lives (FIIIRE!!!) when there isn't. Even telling people to go home and barricade themselves in because of the , uh, "them" out there (whatever group the speaker is trying to scare you about) is not quite the same thing.

Oh, and I'll just quote my own fav author here when it comes to voting "If you can't choose who to vote fore then vote against"

that is a very good point becky. Thing is, we had a leaflet based on "getting the imigrants sorted" from our local conservative councillor not so long back - they say what people want to hear, or what they think they want to hear. Perhaps if these people didnt feel so marginalised there wouldn't be such a deep running mistrust - ooh this makes me mad, im going to shut my mouth now.

"If you don?t like what the party stand for then don?t vote for them."

In fact, make sure you do vote for someone else. Low turnouts can give parties such as this a high share of the vote, that does not represent local opinion, although they will of course claim that it does.

people are entitled to freedom of speech, i do believe however that inciting racism is illegal in this country. Just because the BNP do this in a subtle manner by jumping on the genuine concerns of some people does NOT make it right. So, you are most definately not being unreasonable

But we live in a democracy, and part of that means that people have the right to an opinion. I would far rather have that than being told what I can say/do and not have the right to vote.

It?s a leaflet, if you don?t like what it stands for then chuck it in the bin. If you don?t like what the party stand for then don?t vote for them. But you can?t have it both ways.

Personally I think that the best way to argue against a party is to inform yourself about what they actually stand for, from their literature and not from the media.

There's that example, though, of the freedom of speech not extending to shouting 'fire' in a crowded cinema; sometimes it is physically dangerous. I'm not black or Jewish or gay, but I think I might feel truly afraid for myself and my children if I knew that these people were around and canvassing for support.

I used to live near Welling in se London, and when the BNP opened an HQ there the number of racist attacks locally went up sharply.

I'm not necessarily saying they shouldn't be able to have a pov; not sure what I'm saying tbh, but I don't think the OP is being unreasonable to feel angry that it's coming into her home, which was the question. I would be too.

Yup, YABU. The BNP are as entitled to freedom of speech, and to print and distribute leaftlets outlining their views, as is anyone else.
And it's not always an entirely bad thing to know exactly what people you disagree with are saying, because then you can challenge them if it's factually wrong, slanderous etc, and also you are informed if you find yourself discussing the issues with someone at the bus stop ie:
Other person: You know, the (whatever) organisation talk a lot of sense..
You:, what, like saying (cite favourite completely loopy example from leaflet).
Etc

I can't help thinking it's best to read the guff before binning it - I like to be informed about what a party is saying. Not that I'd ever vote for the BNP or similar party.

Funnily enough I've had debates with my bf about independence governance for the English (in line with the devolution of Scotland/Wales/NI) and we had to agree to differ even though it was just an academic arguement . He doesn't even vote!

Well actually people have said that to me MD, and as I said I'm now sensitive. I didn't like the leaflet, I don't like the whole nationalist movement. As I said I agree that they should be able to deliver where they want, but I don't like them and never will. (And that was how I interpreted the leaflet)

Think I'd best off this thread

I think this is something to do with being 'middle of the road'. I personally don't give a shite unless it affects me.
Lots of people were doing building in London in the last 3 years very cheaply. Our business suffered dreadfully. My husband, has been called in umpteen times now to clear up the mess. Yes, he charges appropriately for the job, but also for the sheer craftsmanship. But, also for the fact that we have a mortgage, vehicle, and 2 kids.

If you are living in a house with 13 others (don't start me on this as I know someone who rents houses to Europeans and I think it's wrong) you can afford to work for 30.00 per day.

Well the BNP aren't saying that.
And neither is anyone else.

I have to say I am sensitive to the Welsh for the Welsh stuff- coz I'm not Welsh. So if they only want Welsh, it ain't me (though bet they're glad of my council tax LOL)

Although as my Mums ays, she'd be glad to send my Grandad back if they can cope.....

(and he'd fit into the BNP)

I don't think it did refer to the English Peachy,because doubtless I received the very same document and mine made no mention of the English whatsoever.

I have to add, that my black friends would laugh and probably stand there and chat to them about exactly where they should go back to.....cos they were born here.

MD it said the immigrants from all parts of the EU (cant remember if they specified England) were coming here and taking all the jobs and ruining life for the real indigenous Welsh people. So yep, deffo whaat they were saying Oh and lots odf crap about globalization, I meant to ask my neighbour (taught the Globalisation BA LOL) if he was in when they called but forgot- must ask , I usually point religious recruiters towards him as well (he also leads the RE degree)

But this isn't about whether you agree with their policies, I doubt very much that if someone knocked on your door and offered a Sharia state as a solution to society's problems, you would be impressed unless you are already following this way of life. I certainly wouldn't but the I have possibly picked the worst case scenario.

We don't get much bumpf like that as my bro works for one of the main three parties - leafletting, election day volunteering, that sort of thing. I always delight in telling him that I've voted for the opposition .

We seem to have been blacklisted by local canvassers - I guess they're assuming that we all vote the same way in the house .

i'm not going to read this thread, cos it will insense me no doubt, but if a BNP candidate knocked on my door, i'd invite him in, ask him to wait for the present, his present would be - a air pellet up the jacksie!!!

Some of the BNP literature is offensive to the point of being illegal. If it's very bad, report it to the police.

These people have a right to stand for election as much as a Muslim party or a Vegetarian party.

It's democracy and you don't have to read or pay attention to it.

If you wanted to start a party with one dimension ie: all mothers should be given 5 years paid mat leave etc, you can.

Just be glad that we can.

How do you know they're not 'about freedom' of speech for anyone else then Elkie?