Two minutes silence and refusing to serve customer

No. It's a symbol for those in the British forces and their allies who died in conflicts. It does not include anyone who was not allied to, or serving with, the British.

The poppies grew on the graves of all the soldiers, German as well.

This silence & poppy observation nonsense is out of control. Utterly ridiculous bread & circuses hyped up beyond all reason.

Reanimate I suspect it’s so you don’t disturb. Banging door etc. But like I said since it’s only120 seconds by the time you realised and started kicking off it would be over. And you’d just look like a bit of a clown.

They should probably lock the doors open. To stop people screaming for exit.

I’m sure she wouldn’t have rushed you without good reason

This is hilarious. Funniest comment on the thread.

In a general way if I was out and about when one of these silences started, I would just quietly get on with whatever I was doing, as long as no one got in my face and started shushing or aggressively pointing at propaganda or whatever. My point is that preventing people from leaving a shop just so you can compel them to join in with your rituals is sufficiently unacceptable that then they deserve to have their ritual disrupted.

@StrangeLookingParasite - The poppy is not a symbol only for the British army.

No. It's a symbol for those in the British forces and their allies who died in conflicts. It does not include anyone who was not allied to, or serving with, the British.

See - I knew we'd agree eventually

I grew up in a very Irish Republican family where the poppy was anathema. You didn't do anything that 'glorified' the British army

The poppy is not a symbol only for the British army.

And I remember doing a minute's silence all through my childhood on Armistice day, so it's not a new thing.

Totally agree with you on that one Theymademe!

@spiney - So we’ve decided differently!

That's always the case in differences of opinions. And of course, I know my opinion is the correct one and presumably, you also know yours is the correct one

Oh wait I stand corrected apparently reanimated would disturb it

Tbh, I could see myself getting a bit shirty if security locked me into a store and wouldn’t let me leave until the observation was over.

Thankfully, I don’t think that would fly in the Dear Green Place so I’ll probably never know.

I see it as the government trying to force us to remember that they murdered millions of us in pointless wars and still want to.
I see the death toll as a truly horrifying reminder of what governments commit their people to safe in the knowledge that they'd never send their children to make that sacrifice. I think WW1 was a political horror which shouls never happen again and I see some more modern conflicts as international dickwaving with money making opportunities.

However, people still died. And whatever I think about the powers that be, those people gave their lives and I will continue to honour them. To remember is not the same as to glorify.

Luckily reanimated it only lasts for 2 mins. So wouldn’t have to listen to you for very long.
But I agree it’s a bit much. They should lock the doors open.

Theymademe So we’ve decided differently! I think I saw that coming.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, mine is if you have ANY relative in theforces then today becomes emotional, if people don't get that then it's their problem. I did not come here to "stir the pot". MN is becoming a place for people to argue for the sake of it. You are all entitled to your opinion as I'm entitled to mine.

Oh wait I stand corrected apparently reanimated would disturb it

I see it as the government trying to force us to remember that they murdered millions of us in pointless wars and still want to. However, probably wouldn’t bother me if a staff member wanted to observe - I’d just wait.

@spiney - her momentary irritation is not much to the potential meaningfulness of the 2 minutes to anyone of the people around her.

That's rather presumptuous. You have no idea what she felt or thought about the OP's rudeness in shushing her. Equally, many of those observing the silence may have only being doing so in order to be respectful of those for whom it was meaningful rather than any great interest in it. You are projecting your own feelings on the situation and have decided one person was right and the other wrong.

I believe both were wrong. Without witnessing it personally, I don't know who was more wrong. In contrast, you believe one was wrong and the other was right. That is certainly your prerogative.

Another rule 101 - people who demand respect the most are the ones who deserve it the least.

And if anyone had tried to confine me in a shop because of some state-imposed circle-jerk I would have made a huge amount of noise. Because that would be the point at which the shop staff/management had lost any right to 'consideration of their wish to be silent' - by preventing me from going about my business.

Not one poster has said they would disturb the two minute silence

Non observers have been called every name under the sun on this thread
Just my take on this:
Non observers who quietly continue with their business, fine.

Non observers who are noisy during tue 2 minutes silence because 'I'm not doing some forced silence. Look at all these people like sheep. Sort of ironic them all doing some forced nationist celebration of war when we fought Hitler to stop this sort of stuff happening' - rude bellends.

theymademe this is exhausting discussing the potential levels of Shushh the rude phone lady was ‘subjected’ to!

Even if she was ‘Shushed’ too aggressively, really she needs to grow up and take it on the chin. And bear in mind that her momentary irritation is not much to the potential meaningfulness of the 2 minutes to anyone of the people around her.

Context is everything here.

@spiney - if the shopper had been unaware, then a shush, which may have been done in an aggressive, judgemental way, seems much ruder to me than not being aware of the silence.

If the shopper was aware and the shush was a gentle, apologetic one, then the shopper's behaviour was much ruder than the shush.

Either way, both were rude and by saying that the shopper got what they deserved, you were strongly implying that you felt rudeness was an acceptable response.

Ok so OP wasn’t frothy but she was like a bath bomb, she knew the froth would come.

No theymademe I don’t think responding with rudeness is on.

I think it goes back to my point that on a relative scale ‘ the shush’ is SO minor in comparison to the total disregard phone lady showed for the other people’s Remberence silence that it seems like missing the point.