to expect my neighbours not to smoke on their patio on lovely sunny days because I can smell it and it's HORRIBLE

maybe get on google purchase your own oxygen chamber and helmet in style of wacko jacko so u are never inconvenienced by your neighbours having the tumerity to smoke in their own garden - how inconsiderate of them

i think u know you are being unreasonable, so enough said

Ripeberry- loads of pubs round here (there's already a ban in force) have built exterior porches or gazebos to accomodate smokers

You are being totally reasonable in hating to it. I hate the pong. When I go to MIL's even though she doesn't actually smoke when we're there the air is soooooo thick with it that we stink to high heaven when we come out.

I live in Wales and there's been a ban here since April and it's lovely. Am glad England has gone for the ban as well now as I do occasionally visit friends in England and oftentimes forget that they haven't got the ban

Yep, as you already know, you are being unreasonable not wanting people to smoke outside their own home, but it is quite reasonable to hate the smell. The smoking ban doesn't cover outdoors or people's houses obviously. I used to smoke and my partner still does occasionally (but not very often and only outside) and I can't stand the smell when he's just had one, I'm quite appalled at the thought that I used to reek so horribly.

Also i think this smoking ban is going to mean that all the smokers are going to avoid going out and will hang around their or their friends houses and then there will be loads of people smoking in their gardens and houses.
Will be quite intimidating as well outside pubs as they will be all huddled up outside.#
What are they going to do when its really cold in winter?
AB

I work p/t as a homecarer and last week visited a new couple in their house and they were in the back room of their house and i'm not kidding the air was blue! with cigarette smoke.
Luckily i did not have to do much and got out pretty sharpish.
Had to spray myself with deo just to get rid of the smell and then of course next cliend complained i had too much perfume on!
AB

soupdragon - I feel the same - they smoke leaning out of their back dooor and towards my garden and I can smell it - yuck - but of course I am being totally unreasonable as it's their garden...but grrrrrr

Have you tried lighting up joss sticks or something in your garden when they are doing it?

Also you could buy them as a present, Richard Craze's book "Stop Smoking, Stay Cool" publ. by White Ladder Press www.whiteladderpress.com. Give it to them with a cheery smile and tell them that Mr Craze died last year of smoking related diseases when his youngest child was 3.

Ponces!

just had last one outside, guess what, smell was gone in seconds.

blossomsmine,DH i agree with you totally. No way would i light up next to someone else. I smoke in the back garden under a brolly if needs be. I always stub 'em out pick 'um up and chuck in a bin. I will not Kiss DP on the mouth if i have had a smoke. Yes it has caused problems between us. (He's an X) I do always think of people around me and if it would be ok to light up. (Normally i take ten paces back, even if with friends in a beer garden that don't smoke). So NOW 23.49 I will go and roll up, I HOPE for the last time. to the OP yes you know you are being unreasonable. You were one of the lucky ones.
it's probably more like 23.53 by the time i finished this. Heres to hopefully the last. PUFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

Ponces!

DaphneHarvey, i totally agree with what you said.
I smoke in my garden, not in my house, not around children and would never walk up to an area where other people are and start smoking. But i DO smoke. Do you all think it is easy to give up? I think alot of smokers would actually like to give up.

JustUsTwo - thought I'd better say that they've just got some tables outside - not a proper beer garden. Lovely inside, but if you wanted to sit outside it would be fine if your children are older, but a nightmare if they're little as it's next to a road - though quiet.

JustUsTwo - they've got a special Seafood evening tonight @ £20 a head - dh was gutted that we were coming home and we'd miss it!

now i smoke the odd one, my neighbor smokes about 20 a day afaik, but even though she knows i smoke (outside the house might i add) and she doesnt have children, she has made a point of asking if we smell it etc and to tell her to p* off somewhere else. which is lovely of her, normally doesnt bother me, unless dd is standing by the window, but i just asked her to keep an eye out and if she wouldnt mind not if dd is there, shes been great about it.

i dont think you're unreasonable but maybe you could have a polite word with her and see if she even realises, some people wear blinkers im sure!!!

I smoke outside in my 100ft garden. If my neighbour had a mind to complain about it, I would come right back with an objection to being woken every day by the noise from her children waking me at 6 ish most mornings, wailing and screaming. I would also want to know why she parks her car in the street, not on her osp drive and why she continually asks me for little favours along the babysitting and borrowing thing lines.

I would never smoke in a public place where there are children. I would never smoke inside my own home. I would never leave a fag but in the street or flick smoking detritus over my fence.

If you can't smoke in your own garden - then you'll have to make criminals of the 25% of us adults who still smoke, whether its 2 a day or 100 a day.

So, yes, unreasonable.

and these neighbours of yours, mamad, didn't smoke?

God mamaD I know who would rather live next door to out of you and your neighbours!!!!

I'm a smoker and only smoke outside. In the past my neighbours have commented that they could smell the smoke if they were outside or had their kitchen door open.

They didn't ask me to stop mind, but I was embarrassed enough to start moving around the corner of the house for a ciggy.

Had they asked me to stop I may well have had to comment on the "Shut the F**k up" scream at midnight to their kids, the constant rowing at full volume when I'm trying to watch CSI (!) the calling the cats in at 2300, the slamming doors and teenage tantrums when I'm trying to get dd to sleep, the dogs barking, the smell of dog poo wafting thru my air vents, the teenagers climbing over the back fence, the rubbish outside the front door.......and on and on.......

(they've moved now and it's soooooo quiet)

nappyaddict - probably only the same as 'breathing in' the smell of a poo!

Serious scientific note... to smell something you do have to inhale molecules of the substance. Bleeurgh!

Our lawn is actually in the front of our house (but we are detached and it's fenced all the way around.) so we can sit out on a nice day without enjoying someone else's ciggie smoke. Unfortunately the washing is right in the firing line being in the back garden.

i like the smell.

but then i have recently given up smoking.

i think that there is a yukky smell of a smoker who has smoked a lot and not bathed for a time. old smokey smell is really pukey. i want to go all stalinesq on yer arses and say " as a reformed smoker i think its disgusting"
i really want to agree with MB becuase she is ultimatley sensible.

but its their house and on their patio - i think they should be able to have a fag tbh

it's not the smell that would annoy me but the fact that you are still breathing their smoke. although i don't really know if you would be breathing their smoke as its next door - maybe its too far away? if you can smell it does that mean you are breathing it in?