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Children playing out in the street

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dunfightin · 07/09/2017 21:27

At the start of the summer holidays, all the kids on our street began playing out together. Different ages, but mostly primary with a couple of early secondary kids but lovely mix of ages and a couple of different schools - from year 2 upwards.
As parents we have kept an eye on them collectively but at a distance. It's a quiet side street in suburban very family orientated area. We think it's lovely that they get chance to work out how to play collectively and work out rules between themselves.
A couple of the neighbours object, including oddly one of whom has a toddler.
Kids are playing, laughing and occasionally shouting but all normal volume but neighbours want to come home to peace and quiet.
So are we being unreasonable to say it's ok that kids play out after school? As one of the DCs said it's my human right to play on the street it's my childhood.
Should agree times or ask them to be in when the childless come in from work around 6pm?
As another parent said it'll soon stop as nights draw in and weather gets worse.
Apparently someone on the street also contacted the police - Confused.
Um not anti-social behaviour or excessive noise. Am now drinking

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Beezknees · 04/05/2024 13:56

NelleBai · 04/05/2024 13:34

If I’m honest, I agree with the neighbour who is clearly stressed out by this situation. For all you know, someone might be experiencing severe physical health issues and wants to enjoy their own home without kids screaming outside and riding scooters etc. so they can recover from illness or someone could have PTSD and is struggling with the noise so I would be more thoughtful and have more respect.

if you want your kids playing out then have it outside YOUR property, not other peoples and if that isn’t an option then play in YOUR garden, that way no one can moan!

Should have moved to the middle of no one if you want to be so ignorant and disrespectful to other people.

The thread is from 2017 so they're probably past the age of playing out. Check the dates before posting.

PeppermintParty · 04/05/2024 13:43

NelleBai · 04/05/2024 13:34

If I’m honest, I agree with the neighbour who is clearly stressed out by this situation. For all you know, someone might be experiencing severe physical health issues and wants to enjoy their own home without kids screaming outside and riding scooters etc. so they can recover from illness or someone could have PTSD and is struggling with the noise so I would be more thoughtful and have more respect.

if you want your kids playing out then have it outside YOUR property, not other peoples and if that isn’t an option then play in YOUR garden, that way no one can moan!

Should have moved to the middle of no one if you want to be so ignorant and disrespectful to other people.

As the original post was seven years ago, I expect the kids that were playing out are now either off to uni, or are sat in their bedrooms playing online games.

NelleBai · 04/05/2024 13:34

If I’m honest, I agree with the neighbour who is clearly stressed out by this situation. For all you know, someone might be experiencing severe physical health issues and wants to enjoy their own home without kids screaming outside and riding scooters etc. so they can recover from illness or someone could have PTSD and is struggling with the noise so I would be more thoughtful and have more respect.

if you want your kids playing out then have it outside YOUR property, not other peoples and if that isn’t an option then play in YOUR garden, that way no one can moan!

Should have moved to the middle of no one if you want to be so ignorant and disrespectful to other people.

Winterview · 09/09/2017 07:13

Why can't the children play in the garden or in a park? Can the parents take turns to supervise them in a park or playground in the evening?

I think you're being selfish. The neighbours are being disturbed by the noise yet you don't care. A group of children playing noisily right outside your house can be infuriating (we had this before we moved, I was studying for exams and wanted to cry some evenings! I'm all for kids playing, but using the street as a playground is unfair on other people!)

I expect the parents of the toddler are trying to get him to sleep. I would be livid if my 2 year old was repeatedly woken by noisy kids or ball games in the street.

Noise is very intrusive. Most people want peace and quiet in the evenings. They want to relax in their home without kids shrieking and shouting outside the windows, or riding bikes up and down the same bit of gravel, or worrying about balls bouncing off their cars.

I think you need to compromise- bring them in at 6pm. A couple of hours playing out after school then give the neighbours some peace!

Earlyriser84 · 08/09/2017 23:02

Article 31 (Leisure, play and culture): Children have the right to relax and play, and to join in a wide
range of cultural, artistic and other recreational activities.

From UNICEF summary of the Convention of Rights of the Child

but also note

Article 15 (Freedom of association): Children have the right to meet together and to join groups and
organisations, as long as it does not stop other people from enjoying their rights. In exercising their rights,
children have the responsibility to respect the rights, freedoms and reputations of others.

Perhaps the little boy who mentioned human rights might be interested. He could be a budding human rights lawyer in the future Grin

dunfightin · 08/09/2017 15:01

Arrgh, I think all the inhabitants should share the street. Most of the adults park their cars on the street and it seems ok for people to drive above the speed limit on the nearby bigger road, kids want to use the pavement to play on the street in which they live. As long as their behaviour isn't anti-social or damaging then should they be kept in at all times or only be allowed to play in special areas when supervised by adults?
I don't have a car, would never dream of not walking my children to school, clear the snow for neighbours and make an effort to get to know them and play a role in the community. I guess I want the streets to be used for things other than driving cars up and down. And if the kids are around and about then it's not a dormitory ghost street or parking lot. And if anyone wanted to break into houses then they probably wouldn't choose our street because since early summer there have been people out and chatting on it, front doors open and perhaps people driving through will stick to the speed limits?

So I will ensure that my DC behave appropriately when out, are respectful and aware of everyone who lives here but I won't be keeping them in before tea

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crazycatgal · 08/09/2017 12:26

It depends on the children and how they are playing and how much noise they are making.

There's a group of children near my house who shout and scream until 9pm and spend their time doing lovely things such as: repeatedly kicking a ball at someone's fence until it broke, climbing trees in someone's garden so the trees had to be chopped down and running across the road in front of cars as a game.

OhtoblazeswithElvira · 08/09/2017 11:55

I am a total Sheldon Cooper about noise but even I would suck this up - children playing in the street (just playing, not vandalising, drinking or intimidating others) is just part of life. They are not hurting anybody, breaking any laws or stopping anybody from doing anything.

YANBU.

spanielsgaze · 08/09/2017 11:52

That's just it, the "rights of the child" often gets mistaken for ,"I the child have more rights than you", too much self importance isn't always good for kids.

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 08/09/2017 11:50

including the right to play

There is no human right to play in the street.

ElizabethShaw · 08/09/2017 11:49

Lots of schools are "Rights Respecting Schools" these days and many/most children will learn about human rights and the convention on the rights of the child (including the right to play) at school.

Abra1d · 08/09/2017 11:16

You let your baby out into the road with a group of children? shock

Perhaps read that post again, Sparkling. Nothing for you to worry about.

Mine used to play out as toddlers and I didn't follow on their heels but kept an eye out and trusted the older children to let me know if anything wasn't right.

spanielsgaze · 08/09/2017 11:15

I'm all for kids playing out, bit perturbed by the "human rights" kid. Sign of the times i suppose, everyone thinks it's their "human right" to do anything. Kids learning it from parents.....No wonder a lot of kids run riot if that's what they think.

Mulch · 08/09/2017 11:13

Go one step further and organise a street party Grin

Ttbb · 08/09/2017 11:11

We have a huge problem with children playing where I live. Their parents just dump them on the street, they don't even watch the way you do. There are constantly bikes/scooters left all over the place. Small children run out onto the road in front of cars without warning. One child in particular has anger problems and yells every now and then. It's unsightly, it's a pain in the arse, it's quite dangerous-quite a lot of cars, bendy roads and lots of cars parked on the street and poor visibility-but what are you going to do? The parents a bit selfish/stupid for letting their children out like that (all the houses have gardens so children could easily play in each other's gardens) but you can't really force them to take better care of their children.

EdmundCleverClogs · 08/09/2017 11:09

The child in question didn't say it to the adult - that's not the point really, and I wouldn't find my child saying that 'funny', I'd be embarrassed by their attitude.

Instead of thinking they have some special 'rights' because they are children, perhaps they should understand about compromise. 'One childhood' doesn't equate to special privileges, though obviously compromising works both ways.

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 08/09/2017 11:04

As one of the DCs said it's my human right to play on the street it's my childhood.

No it isn't a 'human right* Hmm

I just thought it was funny

Righto.

dunfightin · 08/09/2017 10:57

The child in question didn't say it to the adult. I just thought it was funny and it echoes parents' feeling that they do only have one childhood and the luck to live on a quiet side street with children who are roughly the same age. And the 'grumpy' was how a PP referred to the other adults.
No ball games, and parents do tell them to keep the noise down. I guess we had all talked to each other as the playing out developed and intervene if they do things that can be seen as annoying.
Lots of people have said great when they've seen them playing and we have asked various neighbours when we've seen them. I hadn't seen these ones over the past few weeks and so made a point of asking but was surprised by their reaction being so strong. It's raining badly today so it'll be a TV night in all events

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AnnPerkins · 08/09/2017 10:56

YANBU

Everybody has the right to use their street, even children. As long as they're considerate.

And there's no need to be rude about a child for making one possibly tongue-in-cheek remark about their 'human rights'.

TheNaze73 · 08/09/2017 10:41

I'd much rather children running about & playing as children, getting exercise then the thought of them stuck on a tablet, not moving & getting enough exercise

Sandsnake · 08/09/2017 10:33

Sparkled - yep, though he's a toddler not a baby. And very occasionally, for five minutes or so in our quiet cul-de-sac with me right there too. He runs around with them shouting and they love acting like grown up kids and looking after him. It's very cute and totally safe so no need to worry...Wink

sooperdooper · 08/09/2017 09:46

Oops I meant the parents until gone 11, typo!!!

sooperdooper · 08/09/2017 09:45

In our street the kids 'play' out until 8-9pm every night - which generally seems to involve screaming, shouting and kicking balls at parked cars and people's doors and windows. After they get the kids in the parents then stand in the street screeching at each other until gone 12

It's bloody annoying, I want some peace and quiet when I've been at work all day, but apparently we're the anti social ones Angry

People have no concept of how loud/annoying their kids are imo and other people have a right to some quiet time!

TBH we're moving house, and this is part of the reason why, it's really inconsiderate & self centered to make constant noise in the street

MycatsaPirate · 08/09/2017 09:39

We live in a cul-de-sac in a very quiet area. All the rest of the estate is bungalows with retired people but this tiny cul-de-sac is 3 bed houses and it's teeming with kids all summer.

It's lovely.

And yes, all the little ones play out too, supervised by parents from the garden but it's very much a case of just letting them all run up and down, on scooters, bikes, playing with chalk on the pavement, blowing bubbles, pushing toy prams up and down.

The age ranges from 11 down to about 3. It's really nice that the older ones (including my DD who is 11) takes time to talk to the little ones, they are all learning about interacting with different ages and it's funny when the 3 year old shouts over our fence to me 'Pirate! Can DD come out to play!?'.

Where we used to live the old lady across the road was a miserable woman who would shout at DD and her friend just for standing on the pavement outside her house. Because they may damage the fence. They were just standing there. They were 9 years old ffs. We lived opposite but this woman expected both girls to go and play down the road away from her house. She was so precious over her fucking hedge and fence and yet my DD has never damaged a hedge or fence in her life.

I'm glad that this road (which also has some old residents) is more than happy for the kids to be out playing.

ElizabethShaw · 08/09/2017 09:39

Playing out is fine, but I'd bring them in for tea about 6pm and stay in after that.