not to feel even slightly guilty

There is some truth in that, VVV.

But still, most of us make do with vicious eye rolling rather than vandalism when faced with unco-operative folk.

I got on one of those lowliner buses with dd when I was heavily pregnant with ds. There was an old person at either side in the wheelchair/buggy bits & no-one else on the entire bus. I stood there (swaying 'cos the bus was moving) & said to both 'excuse me please' & both totally ignored me. Wouldn't even make eye contact. Eventually I squeezed the buggy in the side without the pole & the guy then tutted & moved one whole seat back. Father in law was a bus driver & he says those seats are the worst ones an old person can sit in anyway 'cos if the bus brakes quick there's nothing in front for them to grab onto so why they insist on sitting there is beyond me.

She's long gone.

Hope her DP hasn't used the last of the toilet roll...

Sorry bakedpotato - I hope you aren't feeling beleaguered reading this!

LOL! I know where you are

Folk wouldnt actually let go of shopping bags down that way, let alone leave them on the floor

I would feel terrible about it. How do you know she wasnt having a bad day, deaf or even has mental/social problems?
maybe you just assumed that because you had buggy people should let you past, I hate it when people assume you should do something, but im the first to give my seat to a old lady, or woman with buggy.
Its like the thing that old people think you should let them push in queue!!

London, VVV, South London. And a notorious part of S London at that!

But even here I have never seen anyone rip someone else's coat on a bus for leaving a shopping bag in it's place!

I expect it was prompted by long term frustration but it doesn't make it right to 'vent' on one individual though

The thing is - following on from Shirley's point - some people can really be incredibly unhelpful about letting buggies onto buses. I've had some people be incredibly rude to me about giving up the designated seats - even when there are other seats available. Obviously the OP describes a - shall we say - slight over-reaction, but maybe it was prompted by long-term frustration?

God, I'm so blimmin reasonable, I'm boring myself.

Blu...

You either live in London, or Liverpool....which one is it????

BakedPotato, please get your head tested before you get on a bus where I live. You will get punched or stabbed if you carry on like that.

On the other hand, perhaps you will fit in quite well....

She got on the bus so the woman probably saw her. It sounds like handbags at dawn!

You say you were trying to come down the aise, so presumably you were trying to get off the bus, meaning this woman had her back to you.........right? hmmmmm did you think maybe she had eyes in the back of her head?

Hey folks! I'm brand new here & just thought I'd add my ten pence worth. I think I'd have been embarassed at actually ripping her jacket (no matter how awful it was) but considering how I've been treated on buses with my tandem buggy I would probably have felt a wee bit justified too. Mostly tho' I'd have felt relieved at not getting walloped FOR ripping it.

Did she notice that you wanted to get past?

did she realise her bag was in the way?

sorry, what you did was uncalled for.

...I am reluctantly agreeing with Soapbox, on hearing about this it does sound all rather unpleasant and unnecessary?

Agree soapy, actually.

Didn't think of getting thelicenceplate actually- dp has just said similar to me and am feeling a bit embarrassed that i didn't

So you ripped this woman's coat whilst ramming her bag with your buggy and may or may of not asked her politely to move her things!

No, I don't, think this is reasonable! It is brutal and ignorant - what on earth is society coming to that someone would think this was an okay thing to do?

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Thats just it Pann, some men are prepared to intimidate you even if you are a woman.

Ummm - so have we established, did you or didn't you say "Excuse me" to her?

PANNtsdown did you note his licence plate. I would have stuck a post it on the damaged car with your number and his licence plate and urged the driver to call the fuzz!

well me too, i couldn't stand not saying something.
I said 'you just hit that car and you were driving away'
he said 'there was no damage'

he hadn't even stopped to check
the other car was parked perpendicular to a wall- when he hit the front of the other car with his bumper the back went into the wall.

I said 'how do you know- you didn't look'
and he said 'fuck off and mind your own business'.

Charming. He came towards me menacingly and I got into the car and locked the doors

I'm awful in the car, I've had rows with people before over it can't stand people being rude and always bite when something is said