Men trying to encourage sex after just two dates. This cant be normal surely

Fortnum, I would unpick very carefully what that tells you about your attitude to women, 'easy', or otherwise. Because the idea that sex is something women withhold and men try to get but will then not 'respect' the 'easy' woman, despite they fact they presumably also wanted to have sex, is (a) about as current as the dinosaurs and (b) misogynistic.

A lot of people keep talking about how it's OK to have sex on the first date. Well, yes, it is - if that's what both parties want. What the OP seems to have specifically experienced (and I have too) is men expecting sex and not reacting well when told that it's not happening so soon. That isn't ever OK. No one is owed sex.

If someone doesn't want to sleep with you, it is not acceptable to get nasty. Either you decide you're not compatible, or you agree to wait until the other person feels comfortable. You shouldn't pressure them and or say horrible things. I repeat, no one is owed sex. A lot of men these days seem to think they are owed sex on the third date at the latest.

Married before the Internet dating thing so probably means I am clueless but from a mans perspective generally the easier and earlier it was to get sex the less interested I was in a long term thing.

I suspect your partners probably felt the same. Win win.

Married before the Internet dating thing so probably means I am clueless but from a mans perspective generally the easier and earlier it was to get sex the less interested I was in a long term thing. My wife made me wait a year - however that probably constituted about 10 weekends together as we were in a very long distance relationship. What made me keep interest was that she wasn't easy... nothing wrong with a one night stand when single , but does nothing for me when considering a long term relationship..

I don't understand why people are getting so offended and defensive. Chill out.
Hands all over you when you don't want it isn't nice I agree op. Men need to learn to read obvious signals rather than just try their luck. TBH I wouldn't want anything to do with a man who thought he could just grab me.

Wait, how is now being married to someone equal to a one night stand? One night stands are... one night. That's a different thing from having sex on a first date and then continuing to see each other.

I don't think anything has changed since I last dated 30 years ago. I can't imagine waiting , if you both like each other, why wait? Actually, I did string it out a bit once and we were totally incompatible in bed so that was a waste of time.

Nothing's changed, some people want to wait others don't ,neither is wrong.

Certainly wouldn't be inviting blokes back or having them walk me home though OP.

Totally normal imo.

Guys want it right away. One even asked me if he could stay over before we'd even met.

Not a chance.

Each to their own. Everyone is different. Not such a crime to have sex on a first date.. Its more of a new age modern stereotype to assume it's really bad to have sex on a first date. Me and dp met as a one night stand and are together years and completely in love. It did us no harm..

If you must have rules, you must also be aware of what rules other people might have.

It's really easier not to have rules.

VHS and chill

I think lots of men are like that, but there are some decent men who will wait. From my experience, waiting makes it so much better because you have that emotional connection and love. Don't compromise your standards OP.

Very true Computer. Unless of course, it's one of those new kind of chills (Netflix and). I best tweet him and ask.

I had to have a think Trees, but yes Craig did indeed wait until a Wednesday. I wouldn't have been impressed by him needing to chill on the Sunday mind. Not that soon in a relationship.

Not sure this is new behaviour really. Craig David sang about doing this 17 years ago. They did get to chill out on Sunday though.

It's normal but there are lots of 'normals' when it comes to sex. If it's not for you, it's not for you.

I wouldn't have sex with someone until I'd known them for at least 6 months. Others would find this too long. Doesn't mean either of us is wrong.

Men trying to encourage sex after 2 dates is pretty normal to me, and I started dating over 40 years ago. Going out for 3 months without any form of sex is totally abnormal for me (in fact I would have given up long before that if nothing had happened), but each to their own.
I've never really followed the 3 date rule but it does make sense to me.

There are no rules it's when your ready. I had sex with now dh the first time we met in person we are now married with three children and been together 10 or so years.

(And totally respect anyone's right to wait 20 minutes or 2 years, as long as the partner knows what's on the cards)

I slept with a guy the second time we met. Went to his house.

I also stayed at his last night

With dh, I never felt pressured, it was a few months before sex, and a month before we kissed. Those who expect sex very early on, and get angry if it does not happen, are the crap abusive arsholes anyway. So you dodged a bullet with them.

I would as well Keira but wondered if this was like girls in Fundamentalist Christian churches having anal to keep their virginity.

I don't think there is a universal rule of acceptable time.
Only thing that matters is how you feel, what you want.
In my many years of dating - before marriage/kids - I have done it in many different ways (in 1st 'date', or waiting till it felt right) - all depending on how it felt at the moment.
Makes no difference on the outcome, btw. If it's the person that is right for you - it makes no difference.

Just kiss. I would still class oral and handjobs as sex. It was a personal choice that worked for both of us

Those of you who waited months, can I ask what you did do? So just a kiss? Or oral,handjobs etc?