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AIBU?

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Original poster

Calling pedants, teachers, wordsmiths and class warriors.

469 replies

shylock · 14/03/2007 08:22

I have a question.

OP posts:
zippitippitoes · 16/03/2007 12:36

ime parisians are not big on taking any notice of no smoking areas

i wa shocked that they sit amongst their beautiful things at eg maison et objet and smoke

and in their lovely restaurants

MrsBadger · 16/03/2007 12:36

It is cruel to 'look after your children and your partner's health' by pointing and laughing if they put on weight and/or by implying you won't find them attractive / acceptable / loveable if they do so.
It is not cruel to help your family eat healthy food and exercise.

Blu · 16/03/2007 12:35

Anna - and the link between anorexia / bulimia and all this constant commenting and judging would be.....?

Marina · 16/03/2007 12:35

And travelling way too fast on the down line is France's terrifying obsession with keeping women stick thin. There is a middle ground that neither nation seems able to find...obesity problems in the UK don't validate the French mindset of maman garde sa ligne so she can get osteoporosis and crumble away at 55

Soapbox · 16/03/2007 12:35

Because France uses surgical intervention in cases that NICE will not do so in the UK. Including teenaged children.

Some people who have surgical solutions are never able to eat solid foods again.

That isn;t a healthy answer in my book - not at all!

Blu · 16/03/2007 12:34

Zippi - spot on.
Look at frieda Kalhlo, Paula Rego.....

One of the things that makes art interesting is that it finds beauty in places unlooked by the rest of us, and reveals it.

One of the things about fashion and the 'beauty' industry is that it defines the utterly obvious and predicatable as beautiful.

Anna8888 · 16/03/2007 12:34

z - less and less, there is ban here on smoking in public places

Anna8888 · 16/03/2007 12:34

marina - is it cruel to look after your children and your partner's health? Or is it kinder to ignore it in case you hurt their feelings?

zippitippitoes · 16/03/2007 12:34

consolation most Parisians smoke and think they still look beautiful

Anna8888 · 16/03/2007 12:32

The UK obesity crisis is one hell of a lot further down the line than France's...

Marina · 16/03/2007 12:32

As in cruel, judgemental and psychologically damaging. So, not especially caring.

Tamum · 16/03/2007 12:32

I meant emotionally healthy, not physically healthy. Obviously.

Soapbox · 16/03/2007 12:32

Paris isn't all of Fraqnce though is it!

Go out to the towns and villages and you still see plenty woman who look beautiful, happy and oh... 3kg overweight[pmsl]

Marina · 16/03/2007 12:31

Just because Parisians of all people think it is OK to behave like this anna, doesn't make it right or good.
I work with a number of French nationals, mostly young women, and fat or thin they all find the image culture in metropolitan France so hideous they have no intention of ever going back

Anna8888 · 16/03/2007 12:31

tamum - yes of course it's very healthy, everyone eats healthy food, does sport, is well etc because everybody is constantly showing everybody else how much they love and care for them by paying attention to their health

Soapbox · 16/03/2007 12:31

She certainly sounds a bit stereotypically Parisian Marina.

Blu · 16/03/2007 12:31

Paris gives me the eebie jeebies. I think Parisian women who persistently purse their lips at women who wear the wrong shade of lipstick or are 3kg heavier than before should remember that they will get 'bj lines' arpound their beautiful, simpering, lipsticked mouths.

Tamum · 16/03/2007 12:31

Oh, you and me both MrsBadger. Especially as hurting people's feeling is simply a cultural convention.

snowleopard · 16/03/2007 12:30

Anna's DP's lunch parties sound like a laugh a minute

Marina · 16/03/2007 12:30

Methinks anna has gone a bit native

MrsBadger · 16/03/2007 12:29

Oh Anna, I am very tempted to lay aside my cultural conventions of 'good manners' and 'not hurting other people's feelings' and tell you truthfully exactly what I think of you in the hope that it will lift you out of ignorance and denial with only a momentary pang.

Soapbox · 16/03/2007 12:29

Indeed Tamum - horrible, horrible, horrible.

Ellbell · 16/03/2007 12:29

My children (age 5 and 6) always comment if I get a spot ('Ugh! Mummy... Why have you got that big red blob on your face?') and often say I'm fat. They tell me if they don't like what I'm wearing (most often not pink enough for them) and comment on my hair (too short, not enough potential for bunches/plaits/other girlie styles).

Perhaps Anna is still in the Infants? Because her sense of what it's appropriate to comment on seems to have stopped developing at age 7!

Tamum · 16/03/2007 12:28

Your dh and his friends always comment on each other's weight? Are you serious? And this is a healthy environment for your children? Sheesh.

zippitippitoes · 16/03/2007 12:28

I actually feel that there is the opposite problem in that people don't realise how beautiful they are and that is ver ys sad

there is a female artist whom somebody might know as I have forgotten her name who paints self protraits i think of obesity..interesting work from the nineties

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