Calling pedants, teachers, wordsmiths and class warriors.

Agree with most of what NQC says. I think

1. is just complete inarticularcy though which I would not expect from students.

1. is dialect.

Where are these students originally from?

The first is dialect- but even so...

The second is poor grammar and should be stamped on from very high! No excuse for it.

and I'll confess to having a personal fear of teachers with strong accents since my very first Chemistry lesson, taught by the first person I'd ever met from New Zealand.
She stood at the front of the class and said 'Chemistry is the study of Meta. Now, who can tell me what Meta is?' and I, as a know-it-all 11yo put my hand up and said 'Meta, like in metamorphosis?'

Of course she was talking about Matter.

I was mortified.

I know NQC, was just kidding. I do think tho that the teenagers seem to talk their own language. ie" new use of properly. "He was properly drunk!" or "She's a proper tart!"
Or is that just round here?

Although I bow to no woman in my pedantry as regards the English language , I don't really see what's so wrong with those 2 sentences.

The first is the way that so many people talk and, even though it makes you shudder, it's not actually wrong. TBH I was half expecting to read "It's like that fing we was talking about last week when we was discussing somefing to do with history" (my emphases), which is far more common and far more annoying.

The second is bad grammar, but only one instance of it. Nevertheless, it does make me shudder.

I had the proverbial bullied out of me at school for talking 'posh' btw (essentially I had a good vocabulary and refused to dumb down), so I can perhaps see why students might modify their conversation around each other. Which leads me onto one of my biggest bugbears - what's so wrong with being intelligent? Why do children feel they have to hide their intellect or else get picked on? But that's another topic altogether...

Having said that, if they were writing like that in their dissertations, I would definitely take issue with it.

What's their written work like shylock?

I agree I'd find both sentences annoying on a personal level, but agree that written English is a different matter to spoken English.

When I speak I am lazy (or use dialect ) and hear myself say "I'm gonna email it t'you" or "lemme jus' read this first" but would never ever write like that.

Huh? Dialects aren't quite the same as going 'ugh' all the time. They have rules and grammar, same as standard english, just different rules.

no it's appalling!

If it's going to go down that road then perhaps we should all say, "Uggg" and "Aaaaahh" like the cave men!!!!!!!!!!

Of course, in a job interview, as per the example below (with which I x-posted) I would obviously use formal English.

Even there however, there is a difference. Like Shylock's students, my degree was mainly in English Literature. If I went into a job interview using the same style of language I used many years ago when writing an essay on T. S. Eliot, I sincerely doubt I'd be offered the job (although perhaps if it was a University Lecturer vacancy matters might be different).

I think people vary their use of language for the situation, and the people they're speaking with.

perhaps they are trying to wind you up

Hmmm, I'd guess that part of their teacher training will involve giving trial lectures, and ensuring they are speaking Standard English for that.

Twiglett, what is wrong with dialect? It is how the English language changes. We don't speak the same language as Chaucer, and that's because of changes percolating through the population, dialect by dialect. Oh, no, wait, does that mean we're all 'bastardizing' the language, and should only speak as he did?

i HATE HEARING IT, AND CORRECT MY 3 YO WHEN SHE SAYS "FINK" AND FREE (INSTEAD OF THREE).

OOps, sorry Capslock. Wasn't shouting.

Don't really care if others can't be bothered to correct it as long as my dc's don't talk like that. But then my mum taught us properly, and I got accused of sounding posh, just because I pronounced properly. LOL

Are they actually English majors??

I agree with NQC.

"Fing" instead of "thing" could just be the students' accent, and "we done" instead of "we did" could be their dialect.

For example, in my accent I would be likely to say "somethin'" rather than "something", but I would always write "something". I have been known to use "I done" rather than "I did" in speech but would never write it as I know the difference between dialect, and formal English.

If people speak in a certain way, it doesn't always follow that they will use the same words, or spell the words in the same way they are spoken, when using formal English.

If they did, then that would be disheartening.

I hope you mark them down for it.

I hate when people give the excuse of 'dialect' BOLLOCKS! (I so nearly put 3 exclamation points there ... arrrggghhhh)