To be utterly disgusted and depressed that women think its ok to make small penis gags?

deffo I am sorry that people are calling your son names and making fun of the size of his penis. There is no excuse for it and whether or not other people miscall women there is still no excuse for it.

Two wrongs don't make a right.

'Fair few handmaidens on this thread'

Ahh that's the other phrase from the lazy/hard of thinking.

I could only remember 'menz'

I don't think I have ever made a "small dick" comment. It does seem like a bit of a cheap jibe. However, there is a massive power imbalance / pay differential between men and women, and all sorts of double standards that disadvantage women, so I am not going to shed too many tears for the poor old blokes in this regard. They can console themselves with their inflated pay packets, promotions, professional networks, etc. etc.

But a man's penis is not sacred thing, so delicate a subject as to be beyond comment.

Calling someone 'hard of thinking' is really not any better.

If men's egos are so fragile, perhaps they could dish it out a bit less.

Fair few handmaidens on this thread.

How did I just know that was coming.

But women's physical appearance is commented on and used against them all the time. Whether they've done anything wrong or not. And you did say the man in question was a scumbag. Not saying it's right. But understandable, no? In a world where a man who has said that a woman was too ugly to rape can be elected President of the USA?

Absolutely.

And frankly, the 'small penis' thing is in no way comparable to insults to female appearance, because unless you're a naturist, the only way in which a woman is likely to know that a man has a small penis is if she sleeps with him. The same man, with his small penis hidden in his pants, can stroll down the street eating a burger on a summer day in shorts with his top off, six stone overweight, sunburnt scarlet and hairy-backed, without posses of women leaning out of car windows to scream 'Out it away, Fatty!' or post photos on a fat-shaming website.

That man has never been targeted by ads that say 'IS YOUR BODY BIKINI-READY?' and will never understand the 'summer grooming' angst about waxing and fake tan and bingo wings and manicures that regularly get discussed on here.

Excuse me for getting out only my smallest violin if he feels unfairly maligned for one aspect of his body very few people will see.

Fair few handmaidens on this thread.

If said bloke is a scumbag I couldn't care less if he gets accused of having a small winkle. It might be a bit immature but horrific?! Disgusted by it?! Come on! Predictable throwaway comments since micro penises aren't exactly desirable are they?

I am astonished on a daily basis at how horrible people are to each other. That people are vile about each other's genitals comes as no surprise at all. There is nothing that is off limits it seems. I am glad I was born when I was and have seen times when people were decent to each other and that I will die when I will die.

Oh the poor dears. Fair few handmaidens on this thread. How about fighting for women who are abused all the time rather than for men who seemingly wouldn't be able to cope with charges of mini dick.

People 'should' simply desist.

People are really trying to justify 'tit for tat' here?

It's a shit thing to insult anyone's genitals and says far more about the person doing it.

It's like hearing, "Buuuut waaaahh he started it!"

People just simply desist.

Still, it's refreshing to get this far into a thread without reading the words 'poor menz' - often posted by the hard of thinking

I remember reading about Lucy Worsley of Historic Palaces fame who was body shamed by an ignorant twitter tosser a couple of years ago. She sent him a picture of a fluffy kitten.
I thought that was genius.

The equivalent for women isn't labia size, it's overall size. It's a very common female experience to reject or anger a man, only to be told how fat and ugly she is in general. Women are judged on their overall appearance far more than men ever are on their general looks or penis size.

I'm not saying you're wrong, you're not at all. But there is an equivalent for women and it's really much, much more prevalent than small dick gags. Most people who deride the size of a man's penis wouldn't know if it was true anyway.

YANBU. I'm a man with a female best friend who I've known for years and years. We walked into a pub once and she said "that's an ex of mine, the man with the smallest dick in the world" and I was quite taken aback as I'd never heard her say anything like it before and a bit later when other friends had joined us said "I actually said to him 'is it actually in there?'"

I would never, ever have said about an ex girlfriend of mine, to a male or female friend any comment about the size of her fanjo (to use MN jargon) or her boobs or sexual performance. Have to say, it made me think less of my best friend.

Yes, so all name calling is a bad thing. True.

But as we must apply generalisations, men can hardly get precious about people casting aspersions on the size of their genitals given the generations of insults used to denegrate women.

Perhaps the OP's friend has never uttered the phrase 'fat cunt' or similar in his life. Or called a guy a dick head, or wet cunt.

But he probably has used or heard some similar phrase in anger, it's just when it's something personal to him, it hits home.

So if we don't like the body shaming of women why on earth would we do it to men?

"Or it could be because the woman doing the insulting are lazy/possibly not intelligent enough to think of a better insult."

Agreed. But do you really think that there is anything like the same level of "small dick" comments as there are the huge and wide ranging comments and insults about women's bodies? Do men who make public statements automatically get comments on their bodies, sexual insults and rape threats?

BertrandRussell that's a daft argument. I'm very proud of my big boobs (I am, I love them, it's the only side effect of being fat and old that I like and I wear big over the shoulder boulder holders to hoike them up to maximum effect) but that doesn't mean it's ok for anyone to insult another woman by directing insults at her big boobs.

Its weird because, unlike the vast majority of the Internet MN is female heavy.

Take a look at the world outside of MN where it's less female centric and any derogatory comments, if they occur, towards men and their genitals aren't found OK.

Male heavy sites are abundant with derogatory comments about women that are found ok. Derogatory comments about men are shouted down or pulled up are vindictive and pathetic.

Doesn't make any of it ok - but no need to pretend degrogtory comments by men about women don't exist and aren't accepted.

I hate penis jokes and agree that it's double standards to tolerate them.
But come on! Seriously do you not see that the world is rife with men belittling women in exactly the same way it's not like we're the sex who aren't subject to 99% of the objectification that goes on.