To be utterly disgusted and depressed that women think its ok to make small penis gags?

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2017 again?

I think it's an easy blow.
Well there is that

Small size 3 at best love it when being called out by gf/and her girlfriends

People being reviled and mocked because of how and what they were born is exactly the same behaviour as racism or misogyny.

This is why I don't join in with the hilarity on this one. To me it just sounds like someone who thinks any ism is funny.

I think it's an easy blow. When you are livid with someone and have lost self control you might want to hit 'em where it hurts and 'small penis' insults are an easy on unfortunately. It is horrible for men who might have a real issue with their genitals.

Yes MN is full of double standards but does that mean we have to be as well? We can only account for our own thoughts and language, not other people's, so calling a man by the size of his penis is something people think is acceptable as an answer to a horrible comment aimed at them as women? Personally, I believe neither is acceptable and I would never call anyone a bad name (Okay- I admit - except when being cut up when driving!) If we want men to stop calling us bad names, then as women we have to rise above it and not retort in similar terms. Yes, this is Utopian, but answering back in those same, vulgar tones does not solve the problem, in fact it gives the original comment to the woman a credence it does not deserve. I am horrified at how vulgar many women are, and how vulgar they are on MN in writing!

Just seen this. I have used this insult without thinking in the past. I should have known better as have a family member with hypospadias. I will try to avoid it in future and am sorry for OPS ds. Do hope he is able to make peace with it.

It is clear your post was meant in thevway you sat kali But I can see in a one line post read hurriedly OP might have misread it

I agree with the OP. Insulting someone's genitals because of their behaviour (however vile) is horrible.

Op i'm not taking the mick out your son, i'm disgusted by what has been said regarding him.

Thank you @littleoldladywho

I was keeping an eye on the thread to see if you would reply. Thank you for doing so.

Lass - yy, thread has moved on so you probably won't see this, but the upset in the CanLit community was vast. Early career academics feeling that their ongoing careers were in jeopardy if they spoke out on behalf of the student that made the complaint, and the entire community feeling that no one was safe to make a complaint at all if they intended to publish. The signatories were all respected journal editors, reviewers, publishers, essentially a who's who in the world. Months of writers trying to decide between standing up against harassment, or protecting their own livelihoods, and everyone being forced to take a stand one way or another. It went way beyond process and into the right to make a complaint. We had students and faculty in tears (some of whole recognized the behaviours and had been subjected to them.) As well as students and faculty considering their futures in an environment they felt to be no longer safe. MA could have handled herself and managed to walk the line better. She was only trying to support her friend, but unfortunately she did so without equal concern for the student. Very messy. Everyone has revamped procedures now which is no bad thing, but the whole saga has left people feeling that their right to highlight sexism, misogyny, and bullying in the academy is under question. (I am only discussing MA's role for obv reasons - SG's role would be a whole other thread, but sadly he is one of many.)

I think kalli couldn't believe what won said.

Well I personally have never heard any woman saying it. That's all I'm saying

Yeah - as soon as men stop measuring their own masculinity by their dick size the better.

Well I personally have never heard any woman saying it. That's all I'm saying.

Oh, god- I so want to post but I have 200 cupcakes to ice! Back later.........

Jane If you'd perhaps RTFT you'd have seen lots of people saying they hear this quite often (although obviously not as often as men shout things at women) and see threads on here with some frequency where penis size is suggested as a suitable retort, or even quoted as a reason to leave someone.

Has anything been gained by this thread? I can't believe there's such an argument over something that is rarely said in the first place!

I don't like it either.

I don't care if women suffer disproportionately, it still breaks my heart to think of any one, only one, of our DSs feeling/being body shamed.

If you wouldn't like it happening to somebody you love, don't do it to anybody.

The OP's son's hurt is not "self made" Vestal, nor do you have any evidence that he oppresses you or any other woman. Unless you believe that his very existence oppresses you. Is that what you believe?

Men hating comments such as yours above really do not help the cause of feminism.

Again, men don't oppress us we are so nasty to them. They oppress us because it profits them. Me being nasty, or not, doesn't change anything in men oppressing women.

Millions of women have been not only nice to, but sacrificed their own lives for millions of men for thousands of years.

Men do not oppress us because we are not nice enough. Don't be silly.