For being like Miranda in Sex and the City

nor me

Oranges - I really didn't take it in a bad way at all, I so know it was just you observing and smiling, so was I

p.s. sorry to teecee and compo, it was an observation more than a criticism that just made me smile. As you were.

kks, you sound like I was, and still am, actually (ds is now 11 months) but you basically need to see other people as people, not as 'mums' who 'only' want to talk about babies. And if you don't like one group, try another one, or find another way to gain intellectual stimulation and friendship. why do you feel unhappy?

Whoops, am I not allowed to hae convos! Sozza. Been here 4 years kks, so got to 'know' people, but not the cliquey type.

Anyway - I shudder at the thought of NCT type coffee mornings and being forced into being chatty with mums who I have nothing in common with other than we both expelled a child from our nunnys!

However I loved doing antenatal tyope yoga - for ME, i loved taking DD to massage classes, just made me sit down at least once a week and massage oil into her little newborn limbs, YUM, I love taking her swimming, she's a nutter and goes mad with excitemnenmt. Once swimming course is over I might take her to something musical once a week. Something I'll enjoy and there'll just ahppen to be a bunch of strangers there also woith kids, probaly of a similar age and one or 2 of them might be worth shooting the breexe with and possibly I might 'click' enough with a person that we go for coffee, but proably not cos Ihave enough mates and don't really have room/time for other people in my life!

i KNEW it! (and i always suspected that was miranda's problem as well, y'know).
shy is fine, some of my best friends are shy. i like shy people, they're generally more honest and interesting. if anything, it's becasue they can't do the whole social veneer thing so well that makes them so.
you just have to be a wee bit brave and ask people to budge along a bit or ask if people are going for coffee afterwards. or at least that's what i do.

at 5 months it doesn't matter what you do with your baby.
at 15 months you will be singing nursery ryhmes too.

my dd likes the stone roses, kevin rowland adn girls aloud. and heads, shoulders, knees and toes.

oh fgs. you are making a lot of assumptions about what everyone else does, aren't you?

kks, I felt very isolated when ds was born. I tried the toddler's groups, but didn't like it, I felt even more isolated if you like. but hunker is right, choose something that it's more focused on the baby, like swimming etc. I love to take dd to gym tots, now, she loves it and most of the mums are really nice.

but oranges all you've done is confirm why the clique criticism is so stoopid. tc and compo are allowed to talk to each other, they obviously know each other in advance of this conversation. but they are also very welcoming to new people.
tbh, kks, it sounds to me like you are maybe shyer than you give yourself credit for. mother and baby groups aren't a test. you like some, and not others. but swimming or signing or yoga are great ways to make friends.

You don't want to sit around talking about babies all day. So why do you assume all other mothers do? If you are happy as you are, then great. But I can assure you that there are women out there who have other things to talk about.

I wonder if by 'own little clique' you mean people who have got to know each other pretty well and enjoy each other's company. I sometimes wonder if my friends and I come over this way. We have known each other a long time. We are now the ones running the groups. We chat to newcomers and try to make them welcome, and some we get on with better than others, so I guess they would be seen as joing our 'clique', and others find other people they get on with more. It's the way of the world. Surely most workplaces are the same?

I have been to mum and toddler groups and people are scared to talk to new people sometimes, so it seems they are in a clique. My friend has three-month-old and just loves it being her and the baby, they hardly do anything else. If you are happy then forget what anyone else says.

Would you say you are happy?

lol at compo and teecee having a conversation on a thread where the op feels everyone is in a clique. But honestly, at 5 months,its hard to redefine yourself as a mother. Can you get time for yourself at all? Teecee's idea of yoga, or something else that interests you that is not baby related is a good one.

Yeah i do things with my girls where i meet other mums doing the same thing. Sometimes I get on witht he mums and sometim,es i ignore everyone else!

Go to a group where you have something to focus on other than nattering - so baby swimming, signing, etc. Then if you make friends, good, if not, you and your baby will be learning something useful.

Or post in meet-ups on here and see if there's anyone near you.

It's nice to have friends.

Compo - where mate, can't see it?

its a "CLique"not a click