Girls told to wear longer skirts at school because the boys are distracted and male teachers feel uncomfortable.

ElisavetaFartsonira:

I was addressing you.

I imagine the girls would object to be pulled into the hall with the boys to be told off about showing the boys their underwear.

If the boys aren't dressing inappropriately, the uniform code is enough for them. When they start showing their underwear they can be told off too.

I also do feel that the situation has been handled poorly by the school and feel that the reasons given would make me feel uncomfortable. Seems very sexist however i do agree that they shouldnt be worn to school.

FFS seriously in this day in age you would think teachers would deal with this in an appropriate manner without making young females feel like this! Make my blood boil

The girls haven't been asked to consider the boys feelings they have been asked to modify their uniform because it is causing an unwelcome distraction.

What would you say the distinction is between telling the girls to modify their uniform to consider the boys feelings and telling them to modify their uniform because it is causing an unwelcome distraction to the boys?

Yes, in an ideal world we could all walk round butt naked teaching the finer points of punctuation. My preference would be to wear clothes.

Teenage girls showing their knickers WILL make male teachers feel uncomfortable and WILL distract male students. It is convention that we cover our underwear in formal environments. Making schools some sort of testing ground for extreme clothing choices is bad for the students, who all have a right to focus on their education without having to worry about standing up to present on the Tudors and getting an eyeful of someone's crotch. Not cool at all.

Teenagers need to realise what is appropriate to wear in different situations.
If you disagree with the comments made, then why shouldn't teenagers go to school with everything on display? What is the line to be drawn?
You could also question why they would want to wear this? What is the point of wearing short skirts to school as it is hardly functional?
The truth of the matter is, whatever the reasons, it is important that teenagers realise What is appropriate and when.
I have no issues with wearing short skirts etc. just agree, not in this setting.

Definitely contact the school. They need to be clearer about who is responsible for whose behaviour and comfort and state that everyone should dress according to the school rules for everyone's comfort.
The message that girls should moderate what they do so that boys and men are more comfortable is far too pervasive already without the school officially underlining it.
It is not acceptable to show underwear (for anyone); if indeed the boys have their butts hanging out that has to stop too.
I guess they could simply have the uniform be trousers for everyone - job done!

because look at all the accusations that the males have had in just this thread. they are being put in an awkward position that could have severe consequences for them personally and professionally

theyre not creeping under desks to sneak a peek. they are in obvious view and thats not appropriate

imagine if mr teacher began his class by listing the colour of each girls thong he could see- he would be fired. but why is he is a position where he can see the colour by doing no more than standing at the front of the class- its not appropriate

*The op has not said the school were wrong to ask the girls to stick to dress code, only that making the girls worry about the boys (and men's!) feelings was wrong!

Why is that difficult to grasp?*

Difficult to grasp because that's not what was said. They were told it is "distracting" for the boys which I'm sure it is. Teenage boys are bound to look if girls skirts are so short they are showing their knickers. Transition from one class to another should not include seeing other students' underwear. The girls haven't been asked to consider the boys feelings they have been asked to modify their uniform because it is causing an unwelcome distraction.

Not sexist, just sensible advice from the professionals who are trying their best to educate the children and could do without the unnecessary fashion show.

Not sure which post of mine you're responding to there trifleorbust could you clarify? If as I suspect it's the one where I tell you that the school haven't said it's everyone's responsibility to dress decently, OP only mentions them having told the girls this. That's not everyone. OP also doesn't mention anything about the feelings of female staff. So I am not sure what you're addressing here.

But they are children. Children do not make anything sexually provocative. Anyone who sees clothing in underage girls as provocative has far more issues than said "provocative" clothing

I don't think boys school trousers tend to be of the saggy halfway down arse variety and their blazers cover their bums anyway, so no problem there. I don't see how a boy in school uniform can make it sexually provocative TBH.

I've actually managed to go to pools surrounded by half naked teenage boys and not give a shit. Because I'm not a pervert

What do they wear for PE? or Swimming? are the school constantly having to restrain the boys and male teachers when the sports clothing causes them to lose control????

No!!!

The whole thing is ridiculous, Men and boys are perfectly capable of focusing on their work when women are wearing little! I've never notice a problem watching the Olympics - the male camera men seem fine!!!!!

We should stop putting so much focus in society on what people wear - then people will learn to focus on the important things in life.

YANBU.

Fine to insist on the dress code being followed. Wrong to say that girls are responsible for males being distracted by dress code violations. This sends the wrong message.

What's the uncomfort from? They've been to the pool before? The majority will have watched porn.

Why are they so "uncomfortable" are they concerned he girls are going to rape them in their short skirts? Why the faux wide eyed innocence?

ElisavetaFartsonira:

The OP says that about the male teachers. Lots of posters have said very similar things about the boys.

But I would extend it to the male teachers too. They shouldn't be coming to work and having to look at girls' underwear during double maths. It's not on.

The school staff are stupid but not that stupid and I think you must know that ariawa

nothing has been mentioned about the boys or male teachers being unable to control themselves, or sexually assault one of the girls or walk about with throbbing erections.

they feel uncomfortable and that should be respected

Funny how girls can control themselves when boys walk around with their trousers sagging halfway down their arse. Are those boys not being sexually provocative too?

It is in no way 'making the girls responsible for their feelings' to say that it is everyone's responsibility to dress decently.

That's not what was said though...

it says uncomfortable in the op, not horny

The girls from our local comp overwhelmingly wear skirts that end at their crotch whilst standing up. I think it's atrocious and wish that there was a policy there like the one you have just described.

I think there is no harm in pointing out the bleeding obvious- if you are coming to school in an item of clothing that is so short you can't help flashing your pants on a regular basis, people are going to be distracted this will affect boys/men more than other females. If you are a child flashing your pants yes, a male teacher is going to be more uncomfortable than a female teacher as they would just have to look in the wrong direction at the wrong time to be accused of being a pervert- although no doubt if a female teacher was known to be lesbian no doubt she could just as easily be accused of that.

Of course boys/men should control themselves, but if girls are flashing their pants day in day out it is a problem. It would be a problem if boys were flashing their briefs too but they don't tend to do that as much.

sexually provocative

I hate this phrase, even more when it's used to describe teenage girls or clothes. If clothes were sexually provocative, we'd have spates of men humping mannequins in River Island. If teenage girls are wearing revealing skirts, their biggest worry should be breaking dress code, not "provoking" a boy or man into sexually assaulting her.