WIBU to say that choirs full of people who can't sing (Rock Choir) are awful?

wellthatsit I doubt she would have mentioned it if they had been young or mixed sex. As if young and inclusive of men is the default.
Really she could just have mentioned the singers, she was talking about the standard of the performances (fair enough) so there was no real need to mention their age and sex, as if that reinforced their 'crapness'.

Omg! £10 a session, that's a hell of a lot. I'm in a mixed choir and it's £40 for the whole year and we're pretty good Choirs should be just for the elite, but should be for those who van at least hold a tune.

I wasn't blaming you for my issues, of course not, that would be crazy. And I'm sorry if it came across like that, it was badly written. Just that when you think something might help and everyone - to your face - tells you what a fab idea it is, to then see that actually most people think you're pretty tragic to be doing it, it throws you. I don't need another reason to wonder what people are saying behind my back. But of course that's my problem not yours.

Furry, sometimes community choir's sing 'proper music' too. Ours does, which is how we hang onto the singers like you (who can read music and expect a high standard) and it raises the whole standard. It can be a tricky balancing act, not to intimidate those who find it hard, but we manage it by using sound files for people to listen to, and working together as a team. It's great!

Bettersleepoutdoors I already responded to it

I don't know why OP gave a for my post.
too confused. off to do some work.

i mean "yes" not "yet"

It's weird that someone would join a forum and post repeatedly on one thread just to be rude and unpleasant. That's all.

JustAnotherPoster00 tilt your head towards this - "Hysteria you say? Nope, no hysteria here. Age old "women speaks her mind and rightly calls someone out - immediately gets accused of being hysterical" - oh how far we have come eh?"
yet, this.

four eyes - very well put!

JustAnotherPoster00 tilt your head towards this - "Hysteria you say? Nope, no hysteria here. Age old "women speaks her mind and rightly calls someone out - immediately gets accused of being hysterical" - oh how far we have come eh?"

'There are some nasty, sneering bastards on this thread. Do you laugh at the special Olympians too, because they're not as fast as people who are able bodied or sneer at children's plays? Or do you just save it for middle aged women?'

Yeah you're right no hysteria on this thread

Meh okay you don't like them - I don't like tories, the daily mail or prawns - so I tend to avoid them

Not sure the level of vitriol is warranted- I'm sure you didn't intend to be massively goads

I am not in a choir (last time I was it was in church as a chorister) but my 71 year old mum is - it's helped her depression, she's made a lovely fang of mates, raised lots of money for local charities and has fun - not really seeing the harm

Oh and OP you will be middle aged one day - sorry!

If it's really £10 a week, then that is extortionate, but that's not really what this thread is about >

I pay £20 for a term.

Yeah, if they are singing at the rugby you might not be able to get away from it. But really, if you are so sensitive that you are going to be annoyed by listening to something you think is crap for 10 minutes, Rock Choir is the least of your problems.

You might not want to hear them but that is life. I wonder how some people cope. They get annoyed by people speaking on the bus, they can't handle people eating in the cinema, they can't stand strong perfume, they can't stand anyone eating anything with a smell on a train, and now people hate having to listen to the Rock Choir. I think some people should get over themselves or walk around with ear plugs and nose pegs.

This is the first time I have ever heard of rock choir but it sounds like harmless fun for the people who join. Surely you could just not watch them if it offends you so much?

CuppaTea perfectly put!

JustAnotherPoster00 tilt your head towards this - "Hysteria you say? Nope, no hysteria here. Age old "women speaks her mind and rightly calls someone out - immediately gets accused of being hysterical" - oh how far we have come eh?"

Rooiboscz hasn't posted (under this name) before and has been solely posting on this thread.

So?

If a family member exhorts you to come to every performance, thinks they are the bees knees and gets cross if you don't go, you have a relationship problem, not a choir problem. My mum is in a choir and wouldn't dream of making anyone go to her concerts, I go about half the time if I can make it, and so do the rest of the family as convenient, it's not a three line whip. In their case, though, even though it's an 'all-comers' choir, they are very good and I look forward to their candle-lit choir service and the like.

The bit about 'failed musicians' is laughable. Of course hundreds of choirs across the land can't all be led by semi-professional musicians, um, they are all working semi-professionally. That said, there is a huge amount of amateur talent out there, including those who have made a good living writing music and as singing teachers.

This reminds me of people who like to mock 'Am-Dram' for this reason- yes, you are not likely to get semi-professional actors or directors at your local theatre, does that mean everyone should pack up and go home? Or not put on any ticketed productions in case the standard of some of the actors (again usually open to all) is not quite as high as the West End stage (having said that, I've seen some quite bad West End stage productions, and some quite good Am-Dram ones!)

Taking part in group activities IS, however the OP is still mocking those who claim it, associated with better well-being and mental health. It doesn't matter if you go to an amateur choir, art club, am-dram production, volunteer group, ballet class/show(which are often ticketed to raise money for the hire of the hall), getting out there and getting involved and having fun with others is incredibly good for you. If you don't like watching people do this, then body-swerve the performance, claim to be ill or whatever. Most people do support their family and friends and children though when they perform in public, even if they are not at an incredibly high standard. It's called participating in life, it's really nothing to criticize.

I agree with you OP!

I agree with the concept of Music For All, but some community choirs are frankly not very good & I wouldn't pay to listen, even if it were for charity - I'd rather just hand over the money directly.

I sing Alto in a local "proper" choir - we sing four-part harmony & have to read music. Carols for Christmas, Requiem masses for Easter & more poppy, rocky stuff for the summer concert. It is good fun & I have made some good friends, plus I enjoy the mental discipline of learning & singing my part.

I tried a community choir - learnt just by copying the leader rather than by reading music. It was fun, really fun, but the finished product was pretty crap.

cherrycokehead

No she isnt but you are sounding more and more hysterical the more you post, a tad over invested perhaps? [head tilt]

Shelagh Please don't let a few people on an internet thread put you off from going to choir.

The wonderful thing about music - any music - is it's for everyone. It's not just for professionals or gifted amateurs. Music takes over where words leave off. Just being part of a group of people, singing or playing an instrument or dancing - is life enhancing. Doesn't matter how good or how bad - it's about the act of making music. Go to the choir. Sing and bloody well enjoy yourself.

And while no one could be more pro music making at any level than me. I am also middle aged and on HRT and thought the Glee on HRT comment was really funny.

I don't think OP dislikes Rock Choir because it's populated by middle aged women.

I think she just doesn't like Rock Choir and it's ethos/music. It would generate the same reaction from her if the members were younger and mixed gender.

She was using a lazy turn of phrase. Unless she would find it less insulting if the members were all young and glamourous and sexy, like the pop stars whose songs they are singing...

Hysteria you say? Nope, no hysteria here. Age old "women speaks her mind and rightly calls someone out - immediately gets accused of being hysterical" - oh how far we have come eh?

"And I'm a bit sick of the PA "thanks for making me feel shit when my whole family has died, I have a terminal illness and depression and anxiety and and and"

• Are you referring to the poster who said she had been due to do a taster session, that it had taken her a couple of years to muster the courage to do so, and that reading this thread had made her feel shit about it? How completely arrogant, unkind and dismissive of you. You are making yourself sound like a worse and worse person with every post.