WIBU to say that choirs full of people who can't sing (Rock Choir) are awful?

We will all be 'middle aged' one day, can you give us a list of socially acceptable pastimes OP, apart from knitting and baking...?

But they can practise singing without doing public performances though.

Do they actually learn and technique or musicianship at these choirs

Could it be that they do it because they enjoy it? And maybe they put on performances to provide a bit of fun in the community? MAybe u could organise an amateur painting auction and raise some money for a local charity? maybe they think it will get lonely people in ur area out and about and socialising/enjoying music?

What do they do with the money they raise on the door rooiboscz?

Our lovely DIL sings in a rock choir.I've no idea if she has a good voice but it makes her happy and gives her some downtime from a high pressure job and being mum to our gorgeous though sometime challenging 3 year old DGD.

Frankly the personal attacks are getting a bit tiresome - none of you know me and I have said very little that could cause offence.

For real? Your OP was immensely offensive and your thread title suggests a dismissive, derogatory attitude to older women which was bound to upset people.

In amateur choirs, bands or orchestras you will always get some people who are more skilled than the others. Why do they tolerate the less able performers? Well probably because they value the sheer joy of performing with a group of other people who are having fun by making music.

I promise I already have the musicianship, but my voice doesn't always want to know, - hormonally dependent, that one. I recoil as much as anyone else when it misbehaves.

You wouldn't pay to listen to people singing karaoke, and this is no better. Fun to do, but not to be taken seriously,

If you don't want to listen to a performance, then don't. No one's forcing you.
Well, no, but I would have to avoid every public event in my town - even the French market had different amateur singing groups performing the whole day.

RC often perform at other events like the rugby matches or other public places where people that see them haven't necessarily chosen to see them...
I still think people are overreacting to the OP as if She is saying people should stay in the house and duck tape their mouths shut if they aren't musical protégées. She isn't saying that at all. She isn't even saying they shouldn't be in choirs.
So no you're not being unreasonable OP. I have your back. I'm sure there are many songs we could suggest to heal this rift? Give peace a chance?

The OP hasn't said that singing in a choir isn't an acceptable hobby though. It's the expectation that other people will want to listen to it that's the problem.

Just booked myself a taster session :o

A lot of people who listen to us really enjoy it. They join in with us and we get loads of compliments.

I don't expect the public to enjoy it. But so many do and the ones who don't can walk away.

I can't paint very well, but I enjoy doing it. I go to a class and have a lot of fun, as it's social as well as creative. However, I wouldn't put on an exhibition and expect friends and other members of the public to show an interest

But maybe that's because you're too insecure in your ability/can't be bothered rooiboscz don't judge everyone else by your own standards!!

Why do you go and watch your local choir if they're so bad?

So Pheasant what are acceptable hobbies and activities for middle aged women?

But they can practise singing without doing public performances though.

Do they actually learn and technique or musicianship at these choirs (doesn't sound it from what I've heard)?

This is one of the funniest threads I have read for a long time.

I agree with the OP that a lot of choirs sound crap.

Rooiboscz now that was a mean post, probably meaner than the OP by naming the choir.

Who is forcing you to buy tickets or applaud? Be ill, say no, do something else that night.

Funnily enough I've been to lots of amateur art shows. I often don't rate the art, but I don't feel the need to name the artists or mock their work.

The OP isn't suggesting that people shouldn't sing in choirs though. Why is everyone reading that incorrectly?

Bushy that's really lovely, thanks for sharing it with us.

If people don't practice their singing, how are they going to improve?

The exception would be people who are genuinely tone deaf and it sounds like this might be their only reasonable chance of experiencing mass singing. It seems a shame to make them feel bad about it.

My instrument playing/singing mad dd has this on her bedroom wall:

"music gives a soul to the universe
Wings to the mind
Flight to the imagination
And life to everything"

• Plato

Maybe these women feel that way OP? I imagine these women just want to have a good time. Maybe they desperately need to have a good time in their lives. Singing and music is connected to the soul. You cannot feel sad when you're singing/dancing.
It is everyone's right to sing, who decides who "has a good voice" anyway? My mum loves Annie Lennox, Adele and Emily sande - none of their voices/music appeal to me at all. So I just don't buy their albums/turn over radio. If u don't wanna listen to particular singers s'easy really.

YANBU at all!

Nothing wrong with singing for fun.

But PLEASE don't perform and expect the public to enjoy it.

My local choir is awful. They're called Babes in Arms (bleurgh) and 'sing' the most schmaltzy crap. We're all supposed to be supportive, as though they're a load of charity cases. In fact, they're just really, really amateurish and it's embarrassing. The soloists are phenomenally bad, and yet they expect a) people to pay for tickets and b) applause.

I can't paint very well, but I enjoy doing it. I go to a class and have a lot of fun, as it's social as well as creative. However, I wouldn't put on an exhibition and expect friends and other members of the public to show an interest.

These choirs are just a celebration of under-achievement and mediocrity.

Op, I believe there are two morals to this story 1) think before you post 2) don't post hurtful comments then get offended when people retaliate. If you live by the sword you die by it

Do you have any idea what it's like to have a husband go to war? Do you have any idea how much support the MWC gives to women who sometimes don't see another adult for days while their husband or partner are away?

Yes Bosnia.

It's not all about the singing, it's about the support, friendships and companionship that these choirs give. If you don't like it turn it off

They can sing all they bloody want just pointing out they aren't that great at it (and I have a friend who is in it) - just cos the Media want to cash cow it.

I also spend my days surrounded by overpaid. entitled military who could double their 'sea time' with a trip on the Torpoint Ferry. (the service I have the littelist respect for)

It is a very spiteful thread.

I can't tell you what Rock Choir has done for my confidence and happiness.

It is certainly true that in my choir most of them are middle aged as I'm the youngest by far I believe. However, we have a lot of men too. And I bloody love those people. They are a great bunch of people and we have so much fun. What is wrong with being middle aged anyway?

The ones like me who can't sing very well know we can't sing very well. We don't pretend to be good, we just don't give a shit. Too busy having fun.