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WIBU to say that choirs full of people who can't sing (Rock Choir) are awful?

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PleasantPheasant · 21/01/2017 22:06

Honestly? I love singing, I think everyone should sing, and sing in groups - it's great. But why all the performances, crap choreography, shitty leaders who also can't sing and are presumably failed musicians. Why can't the ladies (and men) - very few of which can actually sing or understand rhythm, harmony, pitch... - just do it for fun and leave it at that? Why do they think they're amazing singers and their performances are great. From what I've seen they are largely outside, with shit backing music, crap acoustics making the whole thing even worse. AIBU?

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noeffingidea · 22/01/2017 09:47

anne I thought part of the point of these choirs was that experienced or semi professional singers are there to lead and teach some basic techniques? Otherwise you might as well just get together with your mates and sing for free.
If I'm paying to practice a hobby and there's a leader or instructor then, yes, I do consider it an obligation for them to help me to improve, through help and guidance.

CuppaTeaAndAJammieDodger · 22/01/2017 09:45

And by the way, it isn't always the blind leading the blind (although so what if it is!) - ourcteacher was incredibly well respected singer and Sam Smith's former singing teacher.

Strongmummy · 22/01/2017 09:45

I think the OP might just be crying into a glass of wine over not getting picked to sing the solo for "Wind Beneath My Wings" at her local rock choir. I can give you some singing lessons if you like OP.....I do charge however.

user1478860582 · 22/01/2017 09:41

If it wasn't for the hordes of amateurs doing things such as the arts or sport you would never get to discover the exceptionally talented.

I'm watching the India v England cricket match at the moment and not one of those players would be playing at this level if it wasn't for the grass root clubs. 95% of the players in grass root clubs will be mediocre. They are however the backbone of cricket.

OP, just because you're shit, don't be down on everyone else!

EvilTwins · 22/01/2017 09:40

Roo I had singing lessons for years and sang professionally for years. I still love my choir. Even though there is a range of talent. We're not looking for a recording contract. We enjoy it. We sell out a 700 seat theatre twice a year. The people who come and watch enjoy it - most of them are watching friends/family members. My own kids and several I teach are in it. You being rude about it is not going to stop the enjoyment.

CuppaTeaAndAJammieDodger · 22/01/2017 09:39

This thread is sickening - your blatant distain for women (yes, I don't see many men on HRT) of a certain age really is just awful.

Seriously, of all the infinitely more worthy things that you could complain about and you choose this??

I was in a rock choir briefly (age 37 if it's of any relevance), it wasn't for me but I certainly don't begrudge those in the group of their activity, or their performances (twice a year, to friends and family). The way I see it is that if they are good enough to perform to the general public and well received then brilliant, and if they're not then they aren't and most likely won't be asked back - but the mocking and humiliation is utterly uncalled for.

Liiinoo · 22/01/2017 09:34

I love choirs and community singing, I find it very moving but I have yet to hear a good Rock Choir. My heart sinks when I turn up at a show/fete/exhibition and realise that RC will be singing there. It is a mystery to me how they can all be so bad.

I also agree that the fees are a total rip off. I just checked out the Brighton Gay Men's Chorus website( because I have heard them often and know they are brilliant) and they only charge members £24 a month. And the singing is great, truly uplifting.

Rooiboscz · 22/01/2017 09:33

If you can't laugh at "Glee on HRT", then I think you're the miserable, po-faced ones.

It seems the choristers are all taking themselves too seriously. It's a hobby. It's fun. It's good for you, and that is all. If you want to genuinely impress the public, get some singing lessons.

BakeOffBiscuits · 22/01/2017 09:28

OP you are very disingenuous.

You're coming across as a Gf. Was that your intention?

cherrycokehead · 22/01/2017 09:25

And the 'Glee on HRT' comment was particularly nasty, although I'm sure you think you're hilarious

cherrycokehead · 22/01/2017 09:24

YABU. And rude. And ageist. And generally miserable - why not just leave people alone to enjoy themselves? No one is forcing you to be near them.

Catlady1976 · 22/01/2017 09:19

Yabu. I can't sing to save my life so I would never join but my middle ages sister is in one. They only perform locally and most of those attending are friends or family if the members and they really are good. Obviously some of the voices are stronger than others. It the result is pleasing to the ear .

EvilTwins · 22/01/2017 09:16

Looks like it might be fun to belt out a few tunes with friends, but certainly not for public performance.

Nasty.

Public performances are well attended actually - people enjoy them. I enjoy watching my children perform. My parents/DH enjoy watching us. I don't really care what you think TBH. The choir has kids aged 5 and adults aged 90+. It's brilliant.

IAmNotAUserNumber · 22/01/2017 09:12

Serin et al. - Why are you asking my opinion if I am so awful, clearly wrong and mean spirited?? If you read my actual posts, I never said anything against men or women of any age singing or doing anything else. I'm not going to repeat my opinions because they have not been appreciated which is fine.Middle-aged was not meant as an offence. In retrospect perhaps it could be seen that way. It was an observation, but whatever.

An observation? Yeah right, presumably "Glee on HRT* was merely an observation too?
Your contempt for older women daring to make a noise in public is evident. Would these groups be more palatable for you if they were formed of 20-something skinny and attractive females?

Rooiboscz · 22/01/2017 09:11

That is awful. It's just loud noise, not singing. Looks like it might be fun to belt out a few tunes with friends, but certainly not for public performance.

Neglectedbythesun · 22/01/2017 09:08

Agree with what everyone's saying. Sneery crappy thread. Just a bunch of people singing because they like it. So what? Rock choir take money for the organisation. Someone get a job, people get to sing. I went along for one session, as it was the only choir anywhere in my area. I loved singing in choirs as a child and love to sing to myself. Might've continued with rock choir if the time suited me better. The middled aged women were so lovely and welcoming btw.

EvilTwins · 22/01/2017 09:01

People pay to see secondary (and even primary) school shows/choirs. Obviously you don't need to Rooiboczs but there's no need to be rude.

EvilTwins · 22/01/2017 08:56

You taking to me? It's filmed on someone's phone so difficult to tell.

Rooiboscz · 22/01/2017 08:56

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Rooiboscz · 22/01/2017 08:53

Sorry, but that really isn't very good at all. It's like a secondary school concert. A great hobby, but at that standard that's all it is.

lemonzest123 · 22/01/2017 08:52

I think YABU. My Mum found great comfort in singing while she was going through Chemo and they were proud of their performances even if they weren't up to your standards.

EvilTwins · 22/01/2017 08:50

I'm in a choir this one It's not Rock Choir but is mostly middle aged Grin I bloody love it and I think we're actually quite good thank you very much. There are actually 7 choirs and we come together for concerts (the link is 3/7 - sometimes we all do one, sometimes we don't) The woman who runs it is unbelievably talented. I love it because it's the one thing I do for me. I wouldn't gib two hoots if people said we were shit - I'm not looking for a recording contract. Singing in a choir has so many benefits - that's what it's about. We don't force anyone to watch the concerts.

Rooiboscz · 22/01/2017 08:36

LapsedPacific, it was a Jongleurs!

anneofGG · 22/01/2017 07:51

I'm in Rock Choir. I'm 37 - is that middle aged? Don't know these days!

The emphasis is fun. It isn't a charity (although we do raise money for charity often.) It is a business which allows people to enjoy singing (which incidentally is great for mental health). I've sung at some amazing places, with famous people and made great friends.

I don't think I'm a great singer and wouldn't sing solo. RC have no obligation to teach me to sing well or "improve" or whatever the comment I read just now said. I'm paying to be in it just like, for example, going to a gym. Would a gym have to improve my athletic ability because I'm paying for it? No - I pay for a service for my own reasons.

I just love it for my own enjoyment and that really is as far as it goes! Love it!!