... to expect people who use parent & baby car parking spaces to have children with them?

Filly no, nobody told me. I have 1 with AS, i with provisional dx ASd, and the HV told me that the combined didn't count towards a blue badge!!!!

Thank you.

How many others I wonder?

I'd never ever use a disabled space either!!!

peachy-have just skimmed thread

I'm sure you know this, but you don't actually need higher rate mobility to get a blue badge. The council will have a form. A letter from your doctor can help. Its def not unusual for a kid with autism to get a blue badge but no HRM. Sorry if this is bloody obvious and you have known it for 4 1/2 years.

I don't have a problem with blue badge holders using P & T spaces if there are no disabled spaces available. They have a very real need to use the space. In fact if I saw someone with an elderly person using a P & T space it wouldn't offend me either, if they had a need. What I do object to is seeing people using the spaces when they don't have a child, when they have children of say 7 or over, especially when thier children are teenagers and definately when they have a massive car they can't park! Don't buy the car if you can't blinking well park the thing!

I have 3 DS, 13, 4 and 2 and obviously use the spaces when I have the two little ones, but wouldn't dream of it if I only had DS1!!

One woman complained to another about using a space while I was getting back into my car once saying ' You do realise these spaces are for parents and children?' To which the offending woman replied ' Yes I am the parent and she is my child' pointing at a woman of at least 30 I mean ow lazy are some people!!!!

It would be nice to get INTO p&c spaces.. I find that in my local supermarket the disabled spots far exceed the p&c ones... for example in the town one here there are 8 p&c and over twice that in disabled slots. It would be nice to address the balance as both are needed equally..

(btw can anyone tell me how to get a disabled badge for my SN dd???)

exactly. and if anyone challenged me and dh i would probbaly either hand them a donor leaflet, but if i am stressed to high heavens like today, well, i cant really say what i would do tbh.

Befor I had the van I would park WEREVER it was easiest to get dd out of the car. if no db's then a p&T space. (and would do the same if I had my disabled MIL with me.

Fair enough, Misdee. Your individual circumstances.

pc unless i can find a end space for dh then we cant park in the nearest place he can walk from. individual circumstances like you say. so if no bb spaces then we go to pt if they are free. EVEN if we dont have a child with us (very unlikely as usually have dd3 clamped to my hip, limpet child)

omg word fail me

Don't care in the slightest. Never will and never did. Sorry.

However I have often thought that pinktulips suggestion is sensible - no-one would bother with them if they were on the far side of the car park.

thats because bb holders need the spaces, and well, most people know how i feel about pt spaces. most of the time i avoid them like the plague. in town i drive to the top of the multi story as its a lot easier than dodging people with prams o nthe lower levels.

No, I did mean exactly what I said. Granted it's a bit of a sweeping statment, but then so is lumping every bb holder as being entitled to use the p&t spaces.

Only the individuals themselves can decide exactly whether they can manage without the concession. So we may have opinions, but c an't really define exactly who and in what circumstances a person can and cannot use the concesion space, we can only generalise.

My mum is a bb holder because she has great difficulty in walking any distance, but the only way I would consider it acceptable for her to use a p&t place would be if all teh bb places were full and she was bursting to the loo. Otherwise I'd say either wait for a free place, or park at the nearest spot you can manage to walk from.

p&t places would be much less abused if they weren't so near the shop, but slightly further away yet with a safe route to the shop and near a well-stocked trolley park.

I think Prettycandes is referring to the fact that there are allocated spaces for bbs and p&t, and that this is for a reason. Usually alot more bb spaces than p&ts in most places.

no i dont think you did 2shoes.

PrettyCandles did you realy mean to type this or was it a mistake. "But not people with an empty carseat in the back! Nor, IMO, blue badge holders"
I am sure you didn't meant to in clude blu badges in your sentance
If you did. I think you should realise that getting a disabled adult or child in and out of a car is a LOT harder than getting a small child or baby out of a car.
I hope I misread your post.

Don't be so ridiculous - if you have a bb and a child then use whichever space you want!!!

this will pee some of you off. the other day we used as p+t space as it was closer to the doors. we did have a child with us, but we also have a blue badge. oh dear oh dear. should we have left the space for someone else

By squonk on Mon 05-Feb-07 15:17:01
how about disabled people using the parent & child space because there aren't any disabled ones left? That gets to me, because we wouldn't use their space!!

i should bt on this bloody thread should i

i often have to walk across car parks with my increasingly heavy baby when lots of the parking bays are filled with two seater sports cars with no sign of a childs seat, normally middle aged men who think an expensive car gives them priority.

Let's be honest here - the basic problem is the few numbers of p & t spaces. I have to say that 99% of the time when I go shopping there are always available bb spaces but I would never use them, and therefore I wouldn't expect a bb car user to use a p&t space because this is rarely necessary from what I can see...

You have to get mobility to get a badge, DS1 gets highest rate care but not mobility (TBH too exhausted at the time to appeal), he wouldn't get higher care if he didnt um, need care, DLA is not easy to get! I also have 2 small children just under the blue badge criteria (plus another NT one who still needs the noramal supervision for a 6 year old)- unfortunately you can't add the stress levels together, but no P&T = well, frankly I don't go out any more, not if I can help it, certainly not without a second adult.

I don't however EVER use a P&T space when not with the kids, but mums with babies do give me The Look. Dh goes over and gives our life story heh heh heh

peachy my next sentence was, btw:
"not for people that have Kids that are able to safely walk with their parents...!"

Hm, but if your child has a disability, you would be likely to have a blue badge, would you not? So, usually you probably wouldn't be parking at parent tot carpark, unless absi;lutely necessary?
Anyway, I never said it has ot be an obvious disability, did I? But, often you probably would notice something amiss if there was somehting amiss....and, if your child needs assistence above that age , then your child would probably hold your hand, etc...rather then being allowed to walk freely all by themselfs from the carpark, ofrinstance...an example...couple with a about 8 year old child, might have been older actually, used a p&t space, and it wasn't a near by the door kind at all, but they did not have any sepcial seats or anything where they needed more space to get the child in and out...and that did not impress me much, when I was struggling with a 5 month old and lifely 26 month old, trying to get them out of carseats,etc...!