... to expect people who use parent & baby car parking spaces to have children with them?

Misdee, next time I make sure I add all thsoe on crutches, looking weak etc...
I really mean those that are blatantly obvious that they do NOT need the space and there are plenty of those that use them....businessmen are one lot, I think on that a lot of people have agreed.

Jimjams, get your fact straight, I never ever would and never ever have blocked anyone in.
To me obvious is more then what teh eye sees...I am a Nurse, I have worked with peopel of all sorts of disabilities, visual and not so visual, so, please don't be so presumptious.

I blame mothercare.

parp.

Dr Walrus prescribes you all one of these

'By 3andnomore on Mon 05-Feb-07 19:35:25
Jimjams....but I am not saying that it pees me off if they are used by people that need it more (Parent, disabled, very pg and waddlling, elderly that look like they can't walk very far), I am only peed off when people that very OBVIOUS don't need it use it. What is so wrong about that?'

just pointing out that before the op dh wasnt obviously disabled at all. thats what i interupted your post to say.

sorry if iread it wrong.

You're very into "obvious" disability 2andnomore. I suspect you wouldn't notice my son was disabled. And yet he'll cost social services a huge amount of (taxpayers) money in the future because his care needs are and always will be so high- he needs 1:1 24 hours a day and 2:1 in certain situations- that is very very very expensive. But I bet if you saw us (especially as I only go when there are 2 adults so he doesn't have to be so directed- which helps) you'd be busy blocking us in with your trolley, and tutting.

WHERE DID I SAY THAT SOMEONE HAS TO LOOK DISABLED?????????????

Oh Jim Jams you sound like you belong in playgroup...ive fallen out with you before...I cant understand why you need to resort to calling people "names" when they dont just agree with everything you say.

3andnomore, because not all disabilities are visable.

2-5years ago my dh did not look disabled. he looked perfectly normal.

its only now that he has a bloody great big LVAD sticking out of his stomache do we stop getting evil looks off other shoppers when we get oput of the car whilst using blue bays.

and jimjams, what do you mean the weirdest view on disability...didn't think I was all that weird, and really can't see why I offended so much.

Anyway, going to the supermarket is the only time I get away from my brats.

It's deep joy.

And I don;t have to get het up over some parking spaces.

if we cant get a disabled/p+t/endspace spot, we cant go shopping. full stop!

i have spent all day cooped up waiting for a bloody blood nurse, i cant go shopping now as my dh requires 24hour care, and i cant leave him alone.

right now, i would love to be able to go in th evenings to do the shopping with no kids and no medical equipment to lug about. to take my time and leisurly stroll about. and get some ben and jerrys.

If we all got thinner and thinner, we could fit into all the normal spaces even if parked next to an enormous 4x4
That's the answer I think, Eat less everyone

dunno misdee, but I'm off. Ah well I know exactly the type of person who beeps at special school buses now when they have to wait for a child to climb on. It's ALWAYS women as well. I now assume mothers doing terribly important playgroup runs.

I was looking for the post about blocking someone in who didn't look disabled enough. Is that for real?

Jimjams....but I am not saying that it pees me off if they are used by people that need it more (Parent, disabled, very pg and waddlling, elderly that look like they can't walk very far), I am only peed off when people that very OBVIOUS don't need it use it. What is so wrong about that?

"Oh yes I COULD go in the evening when the kids are in bed (after my work at home day, school/playgroup runs, after school clubs, cooking tea and doing homework) but why the hell should I."

P

Haven't read the thread but get the gist.

How on earth do you think people coped before P&T places were invented - which was pretty recently afaik.

JIM JAMS....the door hubbys new car was damaged when someone in a 4 x 4 opened their door into it (of course didnt leave us any insurance details)

SORRY I would rather NOT do that to someone else...call me a bitch if you want - WEIRD I thought that made me a considerate person.

Farking hell, I go and give the DSs a bath and do their dinner and this is still going on, and still going round in circles!

tsk how dare they.

jj, why am i on this thread?

Peachy, I can honestly say that I would NOT begrudge you a P&T parking space, I honestly don't have a problem with someone using it that needs it more then I do (indeed, now that ys is 2 1/2y and ms is 4 and es is 10, I don't really use the spaces anymore now, as it's much easier now with them and I feel I should leave the space free for people that will need it more, which is why it ticks me off if people misuse them),
Btw, a friend of mine has a lil one with aspergers and she got a blue badge recently, but at that time she was still battling to get his statement, so, worht a try, i'd say, you sound to me to be in a situation where you really should be able to get a blue badge due to circumstances, alone.

Mellow, lol...well, I do have a life, well of sorts, but I have had it several times happening to me, that when I actually got a P&T space someone might pull up wiht a carseat in their car but not KId....now, I know the arguments maybe they pick the Kid up, but really how often is that going to be the reason?
So, you think it's o.k. because you are cold to park tehre without having your Kid wiht you, but it is o.k. for some other poor bugger with their Kid in tow, to have to take a further away spot, therefore not just parent getting cold but also lil one...nice....

Locket, I would thing the rage comes in when one is struggling and sees people misuse them...like I said before, I have no problem if the spaces are full but all the people using them actually doing so rightly.

rofl fruitful, that would make me chuckle, too

Tinkerbelle, lol, yeah, or people parking in parent and Tot parking and leaving their Kids in the car, errrm, doh....

not for people that have Kids that are able to safely walk with their parents...!

TBH, I really don't understand why people get pissed off at people for getting pissed off at people that misuse P&T spaces, lol, surely we have a right to get pissed of about somehting like that,lol.

He would have been if I could've got a hold of him!

Bloody disableds taking all the spaces.

Like I say Misdee they obviously dont have a standard policy I cant imagine there are any less disablede people here!

Coppertop. The guy shot into the disable space at great speed, JUMPED out of the car at great speed and RAN into the shop...didnt have a badge...raced round tescos to get a bottle of wine...dunno was he disabled?

3andnomore you have the weirdest view of disability I have ever come across.

When I talk about using P and T spots at the supermarket and not needing them I am talking about myself- I only have one disabled child - and I very very rarely take him shopping (and then only if there's another adult and no other kids). I often shop with the other 2 though - including the toddler. So I do know all about managing to shop with young children. I've done it for 7y years after all. I'm stunned some of you find it so difficult. I really couldn't care less whether the P and T spots are full or not.

As for "PARENTS are the main group in store and, as major customers, our needs should be taken into account. "

FGS listen to yourselves. And you reckon you're not princesses.