... to expect people who use parent & baby car parking spaces to have children with them?

You need my crossed arms as well for full effect

well you see if the bus has to reverse with kids on they have to have someone walk behind the bus, who of course has CBR checks, first aid training, risk assesssments, i am sure you get the picture

ROFL - (I have quite a scrape down one side. You dont notice it so much since i scraped the car down the side of a skip though)

I'd love to see your penetrating stare JJ - maybe we could replace with a lickle piccie of a JJ stare?

OJ that sounds like madness!

Ds1's school bus reverses. If they can't reverse with kids on the bus then they'll have to pick up your dds first won't they. OR they'll have to send a taxi. There - you can tell them you've solved the problem. Transport can be complete gits, but worth fighting I think.

i'd just set my kids on them, that would work

PMSL - I've managed to hit my car full whack with the trolley before.

Believe me I have a very scary stare (complete with crossed arms) and I follow their car up the road

don't get me started on the school bus. we managed to get the school bus stop moved to a quiet car park due to this sort of thing and also DD legging accross the road when she saw a dog. having a new battle now trying to get the school bus to pick my two up from the house due to DH being so ill that i can't leave him, transport people say no because we live on a close and they are not allowed to reverse whilst kids are on the bus.

JJ - really! Can you only muster a stare for folk like that.....?

I like P & T spaces. They help me to not scratch my car with the trolley

Well except for the one time...

Which reminds me....must get bb's renewed.....

PMSL @ walking too slowly!!!

How did society get to this?. I know I've banged on about it on this thread but I am genuinely shocked when people beep at ds1 to hurry up getting onto his school bus. I mean OK maybe they think he's off to some school for badly behaved children, but some of the other children on the bus are very obviously disabled. How caught up in your own life is it possible to be to beep at them for inconveniencing you.

I really think that people who do that are sick. How can you get irritated by disabled people inconveniencing you? Last time it hapened (very recently) the escort told me to give the woman the benefit of the doubt in case she'ddone it by accident, so I did; then she screamed up off the road revving her engine as soon as the bus drove off, and I wished I'd given her one of my stares. Silly cow.

yes, my friend in her mid twenties had an orange badge due to ongoing affects of a benign pancreatic tumour - some disabilities/conditions are invisible I bet even to the trained eye, never mind us supermarket shoppers.

Sorry, Jimjams

I have firsthand experience of this - I was 22, slim, not unattractive - and had an orange badge (as they were then). The looks I got - from other people with badges, from the general public - I was Not Popular wherever I was parked (for "taking up a space" or "walking too slowly across the car park").

I don't need it now, but I do have more empathy than some of the emptyheaded idiots on this thread.

IMHO - couldn't give a stuff about P & T spaces - nice enough but not essential, but disabled parking is pretty much sacrosanct. Then again nearly all my shopping is done with bus and buggy!

pmsl @ your email address winestein!

hunker I am drinking beer for a change rather than wine and you've just made me choke on the bubbles. And I was accused of being rude earlier (for calling people princesses ).

OMG winestein. Do you know I ended up somehow (god knows how because I'm careful to never let it happen), on my own with the 3 kids in the car. And there was nowhere to park, except around the corner and on the other side of the road. And I couldn't work out how to get the 3 children into the house without risking losing one of them, and I cursed myself for being crap and not sorting this out. In the end it was a complete nightmare, ds1 wanted to do his business with the neighbours window, ds3 wouldn't walk in the same direction as ds1 wanted to go- he ended up lying down on the street, ds1 was still trying to do his thing with the neighbours windows straining at my hand, thank god for ds2.

Am off to find your CAT now.........

To the OP: I used to get angry too. A couple of weeks ago I took DD to nursery and then stopped at Sainsbury's on the way back and parked in the M&T places. When coming out I was disorientated because I thought for a moment I had lost DD. Then I realised I'd parked in the M&T without having her in the car, just force of habit. I also saw a health professional I know on coming out. Not one of my proudest moments.

I am going to park in my supermarkets p and t spaces when i'm not doing the shopping and then walk all the way home and then come back later

ok so thats just tooo stupid

Oh, OK.

Yes.

Honestly, all of you who get so het up about this, and so indignant that somebody with a disability might for one second inconvenience your blinkered twattish life - fuck off.

Don't hold back now, will you Hunker

Yes.

Honestly, all of you who get so het up about this, and so indignant that somebody with a disability might for one second inconvenience your blinkered twattish life - grow up.

Will it be when you don;t have the children with you HM?

I'm going to park sideways across three P&T spaces from now on.

i made some lovely cards with a lovely winne the pooh picture on and they said
ignorance lazyness & a bad attitude are not recognized disabilities kindly park elsewhere.

I shall try that next time JimJams. Dh keeps me moving because he knows there's about 2 seconds to get me away before I cotton on and explode at people (I'm a bit slow on the uptake).

Dh actually did it in a restaurant recently when DS1 was rocking and accidentally squished a girls fingers (their chairs were back to back- you can tell it was a posh venue can't you? LOL). An apology was never more quickly obtained!

Fortunately ds3 is still really passive. As long as you follow the same line of slabs on the pavement, and don't walk the wrong way home you're on a winner. And I'm that institutionalised it doesn't even occur to em to do things that aren't in the routine now. Paed asked how ds3 was with new foods- we had to admi8t we didnt know we live by the alws of AS already !!!!