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To protest at the words "Jewish" and "Israeli" being used interchangeabley.

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Jewishnotisraeli · 10/08/2015 20:25

They are not the same thing at all.

Most Jews are not Isreali

Many Isrealis are not Jewish.

20-25% of Israelis, including the Israeli army are Muslim, ( varies year to year)

Some Jews are Arabs. Some Arabs are Jewish.

Some Palestinians on the West bank are Jewish.

There are no known Jewish Palestinians in the Gaza strip as Hamas has succeeded where Hitler failed, in wiping out it's own indigenous Jewish population. This is the ONLY reason why there are no Jews left in this population.

Israel has done terrible things. Hamas has done terrible things.

Please don't classify things done by Israel as done by Jews, a quarter of them are not Jews. please don't classify things done by Hamas as done to Jews, many of their atrocities are inflicted on Muslims.

To say Jews and Israelis are the same is like saying English people and Anglicans are the same, many people are English and Anglican, many people are English but not Anglican, and many Anglicans are not English.

And also, some Palestinians, and some Israelis are Christians.

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Revenant · 10/08/2015 21:02

You do not have to be a supporter of either Hamas or Hezbollah to support the right of Palestinians to self determination, it isn't automatic! And just to point out the Israeli government encourages the perception that "Jewish" and "Israeli" are interchangeable, thereby meaning that any criticism of Israel is a slur on Judaism.

Egosumquisum · 10/08/2015 20:57

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caroldecker · 10/08/2015 20:54

egosum agreed, it does not necessarily make you anti-semitic. However supporting Hamas and Hezbollah, whose published desire is to kill all Jews (note, not Israelis) does.

Egosumquisum · 10/08/2015 20:48

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GayByrne · 10/08/2015 20:42

I need to know more about this. Thank you OP. I'm reading, I'm learning.

BarbarianMum · 10/08/2015 20:41

YANBU at all.

trufflesnout · 10/08/2015 20:27

YANBU at all - many people I have tried to explain this to were not even aware of Zionism or Zionists.