To be quite angry about proposed changes to 3-4yo childcare- only for ALL working parents?

Really baffled?? - morethan has posted many times her DC are happy in the jobs they do .

That's your choice cotswolds
I earned considerably more than 16K and so it would not have been in my interests career wise to give up WOH or in my DC best interests .

I did several years training and studying to get where I am, It wasn't luck,it came with sacrifices.
Those sacrifices and WOH benefit others - teachers, nurses doctors, social workers, shop assistants, opticians - all WOHP do a job which benefits others outside of their family circle.
There seems to be an idea being touted that WOHP do it for their own benefit and ends - they also give a service back to society in the job they do.

This thread was absolutely not about sahm vs wohm but some posters on here are determined for a bun fight

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I've also reported your earlier post which contained completely unwarranted comments about morethans children

Well I made a sacrifice to my salary to sah and look after our dc. After paying for childcare working would be hardly worthwhile. Dh earns 60k and I can assure you works a damn lot harder than I had to when I worked and earned 16k ish.
we as a unit pay more tax and ni than 2 earning 30k each although I accept they have childcare costs.
I have no problem subsidising those earning less than us but many able to claim are consierably better off.
plus all these people who say kids are a lifestyle choice and no one should subsidise other people to have kids seem to have gone a bit quiet although I accept I haven't read whole thread.

Well quite fancy

Its such a tiny world these people inhabit ,where everything revolves around them and their DC.
They seem to forget that the nasty WOHP provide services they rely on.
They don't get paid for doing nothing .

I'd love to hear the reaction when all the working parents went part time or decided to have a SAHP, as more than suggested. Where are all the spare teachers going to come from? or GP's? These professions are made up of more than 50% women, many of whom are parents. I hope you don't complain when we have to beg thousands of people from other countries to come here to fill the vacancies.

Littlemonster

And? I asked a bloody question 2 years ago, mainly because I didn't understand.
You have spent so many threads until you were banned talking about a 2 year old thread. You even followed me round threads some posters found it amusing and commented on it.
I believe the last time was the end of last year or beginning of this year.
Anyway, as i said MNHQ can sort it out again as reported some time ago.

My sister and her partner both work full time and earn over 30k. When their DD hit 2, they weren't entitled to any free childcare. However, our cousin and her partner do not work and they were entitled to it? \

It seemed very unfair to me. I am glad it is changing.

Definitely children of a sahp need and should be able to access pre school education.
All children irrespective of household income or parents employment status need education.
I think many sahp's need a break some time too, a nursery worker wouldn't be on duty all those hours and never have a break. there are some families that don't have extended family to do the odd bit of baby sitting or cover for hospital appointments etc.
Maybe a sahp wouldn't need 30 hours perhaps the 15 would be enough or even less from a younger age.

No one has posted anything you haven't freely posted yourself morethan

Not sure why you are thinking anyone was banned - they would have to be insulting or derogatory . You have posted this stuff yourself.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/1744077-To-consider-this-a-job-and-receive-payment-tax-credit

Took seconds to do an advanced search using user name and tax credits. Quite clearly shows the intent to become am employee to net more tax credits and to get round the rules for UC. Your words not mine.

Nothing wrong bringing it up, you posted it so it was a secret and presumably the search button is there to be used.

You can't have it both ways. SAHPs can't be the best parents going and the most neglectful.

For those asking why Sahp need childcare...

In very deprived areas, or in ss type cases, neglected children can benefit hugely from attending nursery. For these children, often neither parent works, and has a low level education. The children might be fed, clothed and housed minimally, but spend all day in the house with the TV, or out on the street playing.

These kids desperately need nursery for their social and educational development. Despite "Sahp".

Well MNHQ are sorting it out as your post and littlemonster have very similar comments to those deleted previously.
At least one of those posters was banned, the other had the posts about my children deleted.

I have never been deleted either

I have never been banned morethan
No one has posted anything that you haven't posted time and again on threads.

littlemonster

Would you like to provide the link for your search please.
Wasn't this what got you banned before.
You need to be careful what you say about people's business affairs.

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I seem to remember people reporting posts of yours calling my dc before. I wasn't bothered but they seemed to object, they were deleted too.

Could this be 2 previously banned posters turning up again?

littlebooktroll , it is a bit like that isn't it

What I find interesting is come the election Tory voters were all selfish self hating bastards and seemingly 90% of MN was labour because they care about other people not themselves, yet when policies are introduced to help some people not themselves there are those that begrudge those getting help because they don't feel the full benefits of this help

hello Snow white, fancy you popping up again.

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I haven't personally been paid anything, my family have tc and it enabled me to sah. I doubt the amount we have had would buy your lifestyle, but don't let that put you off bashing. You know nothing of our income, you like to think you do. It's very small, would you like to swap?
My children are doing fine thank you. Both working several jobs, ds1 has bought a house for cash and is doing it up atm, I'm very proud of them all.

I am sure my FIL posts on this thread judging from the posters who seem to think a woman's job is practically a hobby funded by the tax payer

Absolutely what 32 said.

Applauds 32 !
I think some people are forgetting that if you earn 30 K/20k/15k a year you are probably out there doing a bloody hard job.