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To ask what's the beef with benefits?

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mytartanscarf · 04/01/2015 14:33

Do people think they are too little? That they should be more?

There's always a lot of upset on here about them - about how wrong the government are and how awful life is on benefits. I've never been on benefits so obviously can't judge. But what are the solutions?

I suppose I am asking what should the government do?

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LeftyLoony · 04/01/2015 19:34

woot! Another neoliberal astroturfer!

LuisSuarezTeeth · 04/01/2015 19:34

Sage, you say... fresh or dried Dawn?

Dawndonnaagain · 04/01/2015 19:33

Beef, in a stew with sage dumplings Luis! Mmmm!

EatShitDerek · 04/01/2015 19:33

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LuisSuarezTeeth · 04/01/2015 19:32

handcream where have you been all this time?

LuisSuarezTeeth · 04/01/2015 19:31

Kittens?

Sporn?

Otherwise it's going poof...

handcream · 04/01/2015 19:31

There seem to be a lot of women on here who have poor judgement in men when they choose to have a child and then complain it's not their fault...

LuisSuarezTeeth · 04/01/2015 19:30

OK, back to the OP, who is no doubt cowering in the corner wondering what on earth she started....

Beef with benefits - like friends with benefits - shaggable beef? Beef with red wine?

LeftyLoony · 04/01/2015 19:30

Yep of course daisy is trolling debating.

ilovesooty · 04/01/2015 19:29

I bet she doesn't know how long you get sanctioned for either.

A colleague of mine who got paid work eventually through volunteering and dozens of job applications was sanctioned for a month for advising the job centre that she had to miss her appointment due to attending a job interview.
I know a case where the claimant had to miss her ESA assessment due to illness, certified by a doctor.. Her benefits have been withdrawn until she attends an assessment. She hasn't been given a date for one despite calling daily. She's had nothing to live on since the middle of September. She's also been refused a hardship loan. Perhaps Daisy thinks she should just die and stop being an inconvenience to the taxpayer?

LeftyLoony · 04/01/2015 19:28

Hmm oh so generous

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HelenaDove · 04/01/2015 19:27

Daisy has also been on a thread in Relationships slating a SAHM who is doing all the shitwork while the DH doesnt even lift a finger for the kids from HIS previous relationship.

So what about HIM being responsible for the kids HE chose to have Daisy.....oh wait he has a penis doesnt he and you think it should only apply to women.

ghostspirit · 04/01/2015 19:26

or daisy could be on full benefits. claiming everything possible. and just making a thread a debate... who knows

expatinscotland · 04/01/2015 19:23

'Of course not. Sanctions are there for a reason and I believe there is an appeals process and appeals rate of pay whilst the query is resolve if a person believes the sanction was invalid.'

You don't get paid jack shit if you appeal and you know it.

MrsItsNoworNotatAll · 04/01/2015 19:22

Daisy has mostly likely never to have been in a situation where she's had to claim benefits of any sort and therefore has not the first clue of what it's like to have to need to do that.

Let's hope you never have to cos you'll be in for one hell of a shock.

53Dragon · 04/01/2015 19:20

I work in social housing - around half of our tenants receive Housing Benefit. The vast majority of these people are either pensioners or low-paid workers. The 'benefits scrounger' exists but is in the tiny minority.
The real problem is the failure of employers such as warehouses and supermarkets to pay a living wage to anyone trying to fit working life around a family.
Where I live the average full time salary is supposed to be £27,000 but this is a 'mean' figure grossly inflated by high-paid workers, so the 'average person' earns far less. A privately rented 2-bed flat can cost about £900 per month so it's so big surprise that people need benefits.

zeezeek · 04/01/2015 19:19

DaisyFlowerChain: do you work? Have you tried to get a job/change a job lately?

Iliveinalighthousewiththeghost · 04/01/2015 19:18

Hi Derek.
Hope you're okay, what Daisy said was bang out of order.
Just letting you know you have all our support x

ilovesooty · 04/01/2015 19:18

Absolutely, Derek

When you've succeeded she'll still be what she is.

EatShitDerek · 04/01/2015 19:16

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ilovesooty · 04/01/2015 19:16

I don't know what your previous username was, Daisy but you were evidently just as sanctimonious and unpleasant under that.

Iliveinalighthousewiththeghost · 04/01/2015 19:16

Y.Y Dawn for reporting.

ilovesooty · 04/01/2015 19:14

I do know about Derek

I know how seriously she's taking job seeking.

I'm helping her as much as I can.

You know nothing and as far as I'm concerned you're full of sanctimonious bullshit with no knowledge of what you're pontificating about.

Want2bSupermum · 04/01/2015 19:14

The problem with benefits is that there are perceptions and realities which are very different. My experience of benefits is limited to a few families with one or two of them needing more help and another couple needing less help. One family the single mother had 5 kids to 3 different men, two of whom she didn't marry or live with so she could get the max help. My friend from school lived in a 2 bed flat and she shared a bedroom with her sister. Her mother worked in minimum wage jobs during school hours. I would often share my tuck with her at the end of the month because there was no food left at home. Both situations were very wrong. I think those with lots on benefits might be working on a cash basis or just working out how to get the most out of the system.