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To ask what's the beef with benefits?

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mytartanscarf · 04/01/2015 14:33

Do people think they are too little? That they should be more?

There's always a lot of upset on here about them - about how wrong the government are and how awful life is on benefits. I've never been on benefits so obviously can't judge. But what are the solutions?

I suppose I am asking what should the government do?

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WitchesGlove · 04/01/2015 19:43

I myself have been on JSA before. It didn't find the staff strict or that they really checked anything properly. Just a five minute appointment. It was only about 3 months each time though. Maybe they treat long term claimants more harshly?

TBH, if you live somewhere like london, it's quite easy to get a job. It may not be one you want/enjoy/pays much, but you've got to start somewhere. People in the South East who've been on JSA 5 years+ are taking the piss!

Many people just aren't prepared to work as cleaners/ fast food workers etc, and this attitude is lazy and wrong.

I also object to those claiming TCs when they don't really need them. My cousin and his wife do it just to pay for luxuries like holidays abroad and a decent car. I had neither growing up and it hasn't harmed me. To me, poor is kids having charity/boot sale clothes, only tesco value food, walk/cycle everywhere and only do free activities like park/library/museum.

And yes, I also disagree with state pensions/fuel allowance/bus pass- fine for those that need them, but they should be means tested.

expatinscotland · 04/01/2015 19:43

'There seem to be a lot of women on here who have poor judgement in men when they choose to have a child and then complain it's not their fault...'

That's because it isn't. It's the fuckwit man's, too. Blaming it all on the woman is misogynistic.

ghostspirit · 04/01/2015 19:43

derek with all the things you have said about sanctions ect. it does not surpise me that some people may become pregnant to get back on to is... that shit is stressful. and if i had a choice out of no food/gas/electric for my child. then i can understand people leaning towards having another child. i would do the same if it meant knowing we had food...

handcream · 04/01/2015 19:43

Form - what do you mean - do you mean I don't agree with you?

LeftyLoony · 04/01/2015 19:42

I hear music

To ask what's the beef with benefits?
handcream · 04/01/2015 19:42

No, I am not saying that, I am saying that you shouldn't expect the state to pay for you when it doesn't work out with your choice of man.

EatShitDerek · 04/01/2015 19:41

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LeftyLoony · 04/01/2015 19:40

Seriously, anyone bothered by hand team and Daisy don't be. Both have form. Just take the piss.

LeftyLoony · 04/01/2015 19:40

Helena nice idea but I think their issues go way deeper than that.

handcream · 04/01/2015 19:39

My DM was a single mother but she certainly didn't think the state should support her unwise choice in picking my father

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Rummikub · 04/01/2015 19:39

Hand cream, I'm really pissed off with what you've posted. I was with my ex for ten years before we got married and had kids. Please don't say I had bad judgement in choosing a partner. Stuff happens in life that we have no control over. Are you suggesting that no one enters a relationship without a cast iron guarantee it'll work out?

LeftyLoony · 04/01/2015 19:38

You're able to type Derek?
Marketable skills?
SHAME ON YOU. YOU'RE BENEFIT SCUM.

HelenaDove · 04/01/2015 19:38

handcream google reproductive coercion/reproductive abuse and educate yourself.

Hands up how many of you think some of these right wingers are doing Dry January and are looking for someone to take it out on.

handcream was one of the people on the recent "NHS in a state" thread slating ppl who went to the doctor for "every little niggle"

The same posters were conspicuious by their abscence on the drinking/binge drinking thread though which after all costs the NHS money too.

Funny that!

Dawndonnaagain · 04/01/2015 19:38

mmm pencil sharpenings!

Grin
EatShitDerek · 04/01/2015 19:38

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LeftyLoony · 04/01/2015 19:37

Ghost you're letting the side down. You're lacking 3 kids!

EatShitDerek · 04/01/2015 19:37

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handcream · 04/01/2015 19:36

Most men.. Or just the men you choose, that is as sweeping generalisation of men!

ghostspirit · 04/01/2015 19:36

handcream... it was not my fault... my 9 kids by 12 different dads all of them rubbish you would have thought by number 12 i would have had some luck but no :( but i do have most of the kids pretty well trained.

LeftyLoony · 04/01/2015 19:36

Fucksake Luis - this is life on benefits here. Sage is expensive and should be substituted with dandruff or pencil sharpenings.

EatShitDerek · 04/01/2015 19:35

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LuisSuarezTeeth · 04/01/2015 19:35

Oh FFS

Dawndonnaagain · 04/01/2015 19:35

Damn, I should have been able to look fifteen years into the future and know that dh was going to become ill and have to give up work. I am so fucking irresponsible. Confused

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