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to be a bit upset that we're no longer included in family gatherings because we asked that the dogs be closed away?

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LapsedTwentysomething · 17/07/2014 19:35

A while ago there was an incident in which a toddler narrowly missed being bitten in the face by an ageing and spoiled dog - not what you would consider a risky breed - at a family get together in someone's house. As I have young children who are already nervous of dogs I asked if they could be closed away during family parties. This was met with a resounding no (in fact it was a bitchy no, behind my back, that got back to me). I have stuck to my guns because, as I see it, the risk is still the same, and haven't been able to go to any extended family get togethers since. No one contacts us and because of what happened I can't arrange to call round because obvs the dogs will be running around.

I'm really regarded as neurotic and ridiculous in this. They tend to treat the dogs like children which I think contributed to the near miss. That incident was blamed on the child by the dog owner.

The thing is I'm feeling really isolated because of such a trivial issue. My DM is very ill and I could use some family support, but when I saw a couple of them elsewhere recently we were harangued about it / other stuff.

It's not such a big ask is it? I have friends who actually offer to send the dogs off for a walk or to shut them out if we go round. I actually don't feel like associating with the wider family any more.

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Pinkje · 17/07/2014 20:26

Can I suggest that YOU host the next family get together and just state that dogs are not invited. That way you get to see your family without the dogs.

GobbolinoCat · 17/07/2014 20:24

your asking of them what they canoot and do not want to give...stop it, they sound awful, learn to live without them.

Deverethemuzzler · 17/07/2014 20:24

Blimey!

I am dog bonkers and I would absolutely shut away a dog that had tried to bite a child if we were having company!

Why on earth would you run the risk of a child being hurt or your dog getting more distressed?

I wouldn't have to be asked but if I was I would understand.

I do think that children need to be helped not to be nervous of dogs even if the parents are dog haters because dogs are everywhere. I will admit to being a bit judgy (but just a bit) when kids go all daft when they have to walk past my two tiny dogs on leads and their parents are the same.

Why would you not want to do something to avoid that stress every day?

But that is beside the by for now. OP I don't think you are being unreasonable and your family sound like arses.

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MrsWinnibago · 17/07/2014 20:21

YANBU when my FILS dog snapped at my DD (and later bit her on the bottom) DH insisted the dog was sent to another room when we visited.

FIL wasn't happy about this but did it....because he'd hate for his dog to bite a child badly. The dog nipped her bottom once and we decided that the dog wasn't safe around kids. He never broke the skin but one exploratory bite was too many.

madamweasel · 17/07/2014 20:20

People before animals, every time. Unfortunately, lots of people with dogs see them as people but they are not!

LapsedTwentysomething · 17/07/2014 20:18

Well lucycoco, please do feel sorry for my poor children. I suppose their father's attitude is nothing to do with it.

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kali110 · 17/07/2014 20:18

Think yabu. As far as i can tell from your posts its not even their dog that snapped in the first place.
I do agree that its not fair to be talked about.
Btw, not a dog owner!

EverythingCounts · 17/07/2014 20:17

As pp have said, it's the way your family have handled this that is hurtful. They have shown you clearly that the dogs come before you and your kids. And if they are using this as a reason not to spend time with your poorly DM or to help out in any way, then frankly I think you're better off without them. I know that doesn't ease the sadness and disappointment you will feel. Do you have in-laws who can compensate and give you some support, or friends? It's sad that family don't always live up to what you might want of them.

I8toys · 17/07/2014 20:16

YANBU - put the dogs away. Its only for a few hours - what does it hurt. I hate dogs sniffing around me when I'm eating anyway.

lucycoco · 17/07/2014 20:16

For those who are saying people before animals - definitely! Your people before someone else's animals in your own homes.

If someone is coming to be fed and looked after in somebody else's home then they need to fit in. If their children are afraid of the dog that lives in that home then I wouldn't mind a bit if they didn't come at all.

If the parents were particularly hard work in the way they dealt with it, I can well imagine they'd get "regarded as neurotic and ridiculous" and become "isolated" because of it. And I'd possibly feel a bit sorry for the poor children of the mother.

Of course do carry on sticking to your guns OP, you're more than entitled to do that. But you can't be surprised when other people have their reactions to your behaviour and find you a little too much like hard work to bother with.

LapsedTwentysomething · 17/07/2014 20:16

The one who was particularly rude about it however, was a different person - the one who gives the DCs food around the dogs. I think that's irresponsible. In fact I never got as far as asking her - what she said got back to me beforehand and it was along the lines that she wouldn't be closing her dogs away so she didn't want us at her house. Bear in mind that this was very soon after it happened.

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MissLurkalot · 17/07/2014 20:16

I don't think you're unreasonable.
I think they are!
When a dog had snapped at a child already... OMG! Cannot believe the owners aren't wary of their dog being around kids.
If it was my dog, I'd be mortified and would always put my dog away if children came round.
I think these people you mention are bloody awful, and incredibly blinkered and selfish.
I'm sorry for you being treated in such a senseless way.

LapsedTwentysomething · 17/07/2014 20:13

Yes, family get togethers do involve the dog that snapped at the child.

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CultureSucksDownWords · 17/07/2014 20:10

I like dogs, I'm not nervous of them and would probably have one myself if I wasn't really allergic to them.

I would not want my children around a dog that is known to snap (at children), particularly if I also knew that the dog was not handled properly and treated like a child itself. Isn't that just common sense?

Unfortunately, you can't insist on your family keeping the dog away from the children. So you are left in the position where you effectively aren't welcome. It's sad that your wider family have prioritised the dogs over you and your DC.

TheBloodManCometh · 17/07/2014 20:07

I'm confused OP. Are you or your children coming into contact t with the dog you mention who has a history of biting? If so, then YANBU to not want your children near this particular dog
If you are just using this as an example, and don't actually know the dangerous dog then YABU to use it to tar all dogs and owners.

Dogs should be supervised with children and by not addressing a dog fear with your children now you are setting them up for a phobia in the future that will affect their day to day lives, as dogs are everywhere.

LapsedTwentysomething · 17/07/2014 20:04

I think maybe if they'd initially agree to it and gradually reintroduced the dogs it wouldn't have been such an issue. It's become on, largely because they were just so rude about it.

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weatherall · 17/07/2014 20:02

Yanbu

People before animals in my book.

BridgettRousselot · 17/07/2014 20:02

People always come above animals in my book.

HaroldLloyd · 17/07/2014 20:01

Wether anyone agrees with shutting dogs away or no, they could have handled it nicer, spoken to you about it etc rather than slagging you off behind your back.

Though honestly I wouldn't ask for dogs to be shut away.

Maybe they could have helped you with your DCs nervousness.

Happy36 · 17/07/2014 20:01

You are not at all unreasonable. I am sorry that your family has acted so insensitively in response to your very reasonable wishes. Stick to your guns - as you have said, your true friends have already acted appropriately in keeping dogs separate from younger children.

LapsedTwentysomething · 17/07/2014 20:01

The problem is that the person who has declined keeps giving the DCs food to walk around with, which I think is a recipe for disaster.

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LapsedTwentysomething · 17/07/2014 20:00

Oops. No contact was made.

Personally I'm not nervous about dogs. I said my DC is. So is my DH.

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IAmNotAPrincessIAmAKahleesi · 17/07/2014 19:59

I can totally understand why you asked that and why you're upset

But you can't dictate how people do things in their own homes, all you can do is say that if they do x you can't/won't visit. Unfortunately they've taken you up on that

Could you attend for short periods of time if you kept your dc close to you?
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LapsedTwentysomething · 17/07/2014 19:59

The near miss wasn't my DC. It was a child who had their own dog. The child was passing by and the dog snapped in her face. Her DM instantly pulled her back so luckily n

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CultureSucksDownWords · 17/07/2014 19:59

Is it anxiety though, when the OP knows that there is a dog at family gatherings that tried to bite a child? To me that sounds like a reasonable worry.

If the family were bothered it wouldn't be the end of the world to keep the dogs in a separate area whilst the OP is there.

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