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£1,730 Aibu that this is alot of money

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RiceAndP · 30/07/2013 13:09

Maybe I'm being judgey/pissed off on a Rainey day today. Friend of mine has just booked herself a weeks all inclusive holiday to gran canaries, leaving her 2 DC with her husband. He doesn't work and neither does she, has no intention of and says " Why should I". This will be the third time she has gone away this year not counting her four day trip away at Christmas, staying in a four star hotel.
Last week in the hot weather she brought an enormous swimming pool costing £180. I'm sitting there thinking shit, that would be my food bill for two months.
This week I would dearly love to take DC out for the day but cant afford to. I work but am taking this week as holiday.
I can never hope to have this sort of wage into my house of £1,730 each month? Granted one of her Dc has a mild disability and has an active life in all he does, goes to school every day. Has to attend hospital appointments twice a year for check ups.
She also gets full H/B and C/T so really that's a lot of money going into taking care of this household.
I need a bloody holiday just to get over the figures given to people that don't work... Aibu..

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ProtegeMoi · 30/07/2013 18:19

Havel - so by your quotes a family of 5 with 2 disabled members got roughly the same amount as the poster says this lady gets for 1 mildly disabled child, hence saying its bullshit.

And all this high rate DLA for ADHD, I don't think so!
My son has GDD, ADHD, ASD and SPD and we get the middle rate of care with no mobility. High rate isn't awarded easily, in fact DLA isn't awarded easily.

We had to go to appeal to get anything and we had 7 different professionals backing us. And we don't get a 'free car'.

IneedAsockamnesty · 30/07/2013 18:15

No hegsy I'm not,if I were my post would have contained the words "your a liar" it didn't.

You have either minimised the child's difficulties and left off additional needs or are mistaken about the figures. Either could have been unintentional and an easy mistake to make.

If your happy to disclose the tax years you are talking about it would be quite easy for me to tell you how many under 18's in those tax years were getting DLA for ADHD (and nothing else)and what level it was paid at.

But for at least the last approx 10+years the huge majority of payments for ADHD (and nothing else)would be no higher than lower for both components and most of those in payment will have actually been awarded it after appeal or tribunal.

garlicagain · 30/07/2013 18:02

Ahhh ... When you said "after he left", you meant her H not your bro! Sorry for misunderstanding you, hegsy.

PrettyKitty1986 · 30/07/2013 18:00

Is £1700 a month really going to buy you that lifestyle?

We would struggle for one holiday a year on that for a family of 4, never mind more than one Hmm

Hegsy · 30/07/2013 17:51

sockreturningpixie are you calling me a liar? Why on earth would I lie about something like that?????

farrowandbawl · 30/07/2013 17:49

Garlic,

That's if the support in your area is avaliable in the first place and hasn't been subject to the oh, so many cuts.

DryCounty79 · 30/07/2013 17:49

Sock You're right, I do now get LHA. But when I was claiming for the full amount as a sah single mum from 2006-2011, it was full HB and it was still paid directly to me, as the landlord had problems with a previous tenant and wouldn't accept it being paid directly to him. Maybe it is different council to council.

Hegsy · 30/07/2013 17:49

Garlicagain my brother never left home and is still there now. No idea why you think he had? He's only just finished high school this year(held back a year at primary) his DLA is gauranteed until he's 21 if I remember correctly. His social worker at school helped my mum fill out the forms. As for housing benefit she needed all loass od crap like landlord letter, solicitor letter to do with the seperation and also I think letter from the school. Tbf she was in a pretty shitty place at that point and no money would ever xompensate for that. Having to hold your mum whilst she lies and breaks her heart and knowing nothing you can do will fix it just isnt worth anything Sad

garlicagain · 30/07/2013 17:44

Have you ever looked after a disabled child whilst being disabled yourself?

You would actually need £000s just to cover equipment & support. I know you wouldn't get that on the State!

garlicagain · 30/07/2013 17:43

I've just worked mine out so you can all have a go at me : £790 a month. No disability elements as am still on appeal, HB & CTC included. It's the equivalent of around £10k pa earnings, so pretty crap - as I know; I'm living on it!

I don't think three times that would be excessive for somebody with children, some with SN, in a more expensive area. They'd be at least as skint as I am.

SugarSpunSisters · 30/07/2013 17:42

Havel, I know you say "looking after kids can be really hard" -

Have you ever looked after a disabled child whilst being disabled yourself?

SugarSpunSisters · 30/07/2013 17:40

£450 less housing - for a family of five, two with disabilities, you are looking at less than £10 per day per person.

Plenty enough Hmm

SugarSpunSisters · 30/07/2013 17:38

Yeah you're right actually... some people, 99% of the time are imaginary people, do get ridiculous amounts.

What's ridiculous?

IneedAsockamnesty · 30/07/2013 17:36

HaveI,

That's a family of 5 with 2 disabled members, how is the sum received a ridiculous amount?

HaveIGotPoosForYou · 30/07/2013 17:34

I remember when I was doing voluntary work a woman phoned into one of my colleagues at the time (a place where you can seek advice for claiming benefits/getting housing etc) complaining that she only got £450 a week. She had 3 kids one of which was disabled, disabled herself but her husband was not disabled. She was :o on why she didn't get more. I know looking after kids can be really hard, but surely that is either enough or you don't have more kids than you can handle?

I thought I'd share that some people do get a ridiculous amount.

farrowandbawl · 30/07/2013 17:32

SN - check

Just need someone to mention a car....and I've got a full house!

IneedAsockamnesty · 30/07/2013 17:32

Just realised I should have included in my ADHD related post that lower rates of both DLA components are paid if your one of the lucky ones and they do not add up to any where near £400 pm.

The vast majority of children with ADHD do not qualify for any DLA at all.

sugar quite right,lets stop tripping up outlandish claims with actual facts.Grin

SugarSpunSisters · 30/07/2013 17:29

Yeah but she was already raking in hundreds, more than two FT wages remember, so can understand why she'd not need to claim another few hundred for rent Wink

IneedAsockamnesty · 30/07/2013 17:28

Dry. Then you do not get housing benefit you get LHA. They are very slightly different but paid by the same office.

garlicagain · 30/07/2013 17:27

I like the way hegsy's mum couldn't be arse to "jump through hoops" to claim HB Wink Hoops like not being entitled to it?!

coco87 · 30/07/2013 17:24

This is Mumsnet. The first commandment is "thou shall not judge". Now get back to work!

garlicagain · 30/07/2013 17:22

Hegsy, how did your mum get £800 tax credits AFTER your brother left home? Was she cheating??

- HMRC says -

Child Tax Credit
Your household is not entitled to Child Tax Credit because of the following reasons:-

  • The household must have care of at least one child who is under the age of 20.
or
  • Children between 16 and 19 must be in full-time education or on an approved training course or registered with a careers service, Connexions or similar.
or
  • Children between 19 and 20 must be in full-time education or on an approved training course. They must have enrolled, been accepted for or started full-time education or approved training before they turned 19.

- Hmm -

Everybody gets reduced council tax if they live alone - 25% off, fyi.

DryCounty79 · 30/07/2013 17:22

Farrow Just for info, the small amount of Housing Benefit I receive is paid directly to me. At the time of submitting a claim, I was given a choice as to whether I wanted it paid to me or the Landlord.

D0oinMeCleanin · 30/07/2013 17:20

£1700 is waaayyy too much for a single person for 1 week.

We got 2 weeks all inclusive, 4*, mid season for 4 for just shy of £2500.

YANBU.

But that's not what you meant is it? If you mean her benefits are too high, YABU. I used to go to CP every year, exclusive villa for a week when I was on benefits. My Grandparents paid. The rest of the time I could afford to feed both me and dd1 or feed dd1 and put leccy on the meter. I couldn't manage all 3 at once.

MurderOfGoths · 30/07/2013 17:19

Grin @ Hassled